Tight Poker

[ugignadl]

Here I play, in my own opinion, my worst hand of tonight.

I'll cut it off when the flop action gets to me. I know, the preflop is just disgusting, feel free to let rip .

***** Hand History for Game 4889070911 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 06, 10:35:27 ET 2006
Table Monster #1278936 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: vendborg ( $272.58 )
Seat 6: ClintPower ( $303.90 )
Seat 7: michaeljackson ( $203.10 )
Seat 9: Ugignadl ( $432.80 )
Seat 8: legareth ( $170.70 )
Seat 2: skeeter_lee ( $215.25 )
Seat 4: dave1979777 ( $291.62 )
Seat 10: Wan2Kim ( $217.95 )
Seat 5: jhandbh ( $191.05 )
Seat 3: Freechill ( $216.55 )
michaeljackson posts small blind [$1].
legareth posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ugignadl [ ]
Ugignadl calls [$2]. UTG limp with TT? Someone kill me.
Wan2Kim folds.
vendborg calls [$2].
skeeter_lee folds.
Freechill calls [$2].
dave1979777 folds.
jhandbh folds.
ClintPower raises [$8]. Raises a lot. Weak player.
michaeljackson folds.
legareth calls [$6]. Retarded player, called off his stack earlier with second pair no kicker (K2).
Ugignadl calls [$6].
vendborg raises [$12]. Bugger. TAG who got disced earlier out of a $400 pot which I am pretty sure he would have won.
Freechill folds.
ClintPower calls [$6].
legareth calls [$6].
Ugignadl calls [$6].
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
legareth checks.
Ugignadl......

[cavman]

the limp is awful, but i think it's okay after that, assuming you check-folded the flop. after someone raises behind you, it's okay to call just for set value. if you don't hit a set, you're done.

but given your description of your play, i'm guessing it gets pretty ugly from the flop on.

[ugignadl]

No-one else wants to burn me at the stake?

I did check-fold the flop.

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
legareth checks.
Ugignadl checks.
vendborg bets [$35]. This is such a cbet.
ClintPower folds.
legareth folds.
Ugignadl folds.
vendborg does not show cards.
The time at which hand ended:Aug 06 2006 10:38 ET
vendborg wins $90.55

I can only assume everyone else is stunned into silence.

[cavman]

what huge mistakes did you think you made? i don't play a lot of full ring, and limping UTG with TT seems like a bad idea, but not the dumbest thing I've ever seen. After that, I really don't see any mistakes. i'm not sure why you are expecting so much criticism.

[goofyballer]

Yeah, I don't play FR so I'm not sure what your UTG raising range should be, but the rest of the hand looks fine.

[blatman25]

I might actually get myself into your preflop situation from time to time. I sometimes limp with middle pairs and hope to catch a set. If someone raises like they did, I'll often call because of the implied odds, especially if there are a lot of callers.

However, if I don't hit a set on the flop, I'm done. Unless I get the odds to keep drawing, I'm folding it.

[easy_as_pie]

fold flop obv. but def. raise full right....maybe limp re raise if the guy that opened is retarded

[ugignadl]

Mmm OK...well yeah, the thing is, after I make a few calls preflop after the raises I basically define my hand for everyone to see. It's an absolutely awful play, because it means that I will rarely get paid off if my T hits on the flop. I think the better play would be to raise preflop for sure, and then reraise. Call - call - call - <flop> - bet would never work. It kills the implied value.

Anyway, back to your scheduled show...

[bram]

yep not raising preflop here is unaustralian, (hope you saw the chasers' war on everything to get this reference

[blatman25]

Mmm OK...well yeah, the thing is, after I make a few calls preflop after the raises I basically define my hand for everyone to see. It's an absolutely awful play, because it means that I will rarely get paid off if my T hits on the flop. I think the better play would be to raise preflop for sure, and then reraise. Call - call - call - <flop> - bet would never work. It kills the implied value.

Anyway, back to your scheduled show...

I never said anything about betting out on the flop. If you check one time, most of the donkeys will read you for weak the entire hand and never change that opinion. Besides, you've got plenty of other players to do your betting for you.

[neverthink]

I don't think limping kills your implied odds should you hit the ten, but you lose the initiative and can't take down the pot with a flop bet. Villain line is strange and so I think I'd bet the flop after he checked it sometimes, given the size of it now, but shutdown if called. He's either missed or slowplaying a monster like trip Queens. Don't know why he'd check that flop though, even with QQ.

Sry, misread the history, he didn't check, so in that case I check fold like you did, and I'm not sure that he has air there at all, I think overpair or trip Qs. Read depends on what a small raise from him pre flop means to you, but he is offering you great odds to hit the set.