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Stupid Motherfucker CALLS all-in with a flush draw
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Stupid Motherfucker CALLS all-in with a flush draw
by rode_dog » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:23 am
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***** Hand History for Game 3174420902 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, December 09, 23:54:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 66379 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 8: MHelfy ( $22.85 )
Seat 9: moezavalza ( $22.52 )
Seat 10: StoneColdDog ( $29.15 )
Seat 4: tammers994 ( $17.15 )
Seat 6: DJHarrison ( $22.35 )
Seat 7: sylverfox777 ( $32.45 )
Seat 5: mr_eskimo ( $10 )
Seat 3: DSMMEM ( $5 )
Seat 1: Murf_Dog ( $18.20 )
Seat 2: Tartan1986 ( $25 )
Murf_Dog posts small blind [$0.10].
Tartan1986 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StoneColdDog [ Kc Kh ]
DSMMEM has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
DSMMEM folds.
tammers994 folds.
mr_eskimo calls [$0.25].
DJHarrison calls [$0.25].
sylverfox777 folds.
MHelfy folds.
moezavalza folds.
StoneColdDog raises [$1.25].
Murf_Dog calls [$1.15].
Tartan1986 folds.
mr_eskimo folds.
DJHarrison folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 5s, 7s ]
Murf_Dog bets [$3].
StoneColdDog raises [$17].I KNOW he is on a draw. He always bets his draws.
Murf_Dog is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
StoneColdDog shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
Murf_Dog shows [ Ks, Qs ] a flush, king high.
StoneColdDog wins $0.05 from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
Murf_Dog wins $35.30 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
This dumb ass fuckwad donkey then goes on the talk shit. I tell him nice call. Not very good with math, he? He tells me he is a finance major and Poker is all luck.
WOW - I know long term I make a fortune off these "finance majors", but I still want to hunt him down and beat him like son of a crack whore that he is.
***** Hand History for Game 3174420902 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, December 09, 23:54:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 66379 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 8: MHelfy ( $22.85 )
Seat 9: moezavalza ( $22.52 )
Seat 10: StoneColdDog ( $29.15 )
Seat 4: tammers994 ( $17.15 )
Seat 6: DJHarrison ( $22.35 )
Seat 7: sylverfox777 ( $32.45 )
Seat 5: mr_eskimo ( $10 )
Seat 3: DSMMEM ( $5 )
Seat 1: Murf_Dog ( $18.20 )
Seat 2: Tartan1986 ( $25 )
Murf_Dog posts small blind [$0.10].
Tartan1986 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StoneColdDog [ Kc Kh ]
DSMMEM has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
DSMMEM folds.
tammers994 folds.
mr_eskimo calls [$0.25].
DJHarrison calls [$0.25].
sylverfox777 folds.
MHelfy folds.
moezavalza folds.
StoneColdDog raises [$1.25].
Murf_Dog calls [$1.15].
Tartan1986 folds.
mr_eskimo folds.
DJHarrison folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 5s, 7s ]
Murf_Dog bets [$3].
StoneColdDog raises [$17].I KNOW he is on a draw. He always bets his draws.
Murf_Dog is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
StoneColdDog shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
Murf_Dog shows [ Ks, Qs ] a flush, king high.
StoneColdDog wins $0.05 from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
Murf_Dog wins $35.30 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
This dumb ass fuckwad donkey then goes on the talk shit. I tell him nice call. Not very good with math, he? He tells me he is a finance major and Poker is all luck.
WOW - I know long term I make a fortune off these "finance majors", but I still want to hunt him down and beat him like son of a crack whore that he is.
by darkdenim » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:27 pm
Check out my post: http://www.tightpoker.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=539
Donk called my all-in with a flush draw.
Donk called my all-in with a flush draw.
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by kedoran » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:25 pm
Bitch free zone??
He bet his flush draw + posible two overcards, this is not a bad play at all.
If both of his OC's are live your the underdog, and even if they are not hes still has around 35%(?) chance to win if you get him all in on flop.
He bet his flush draw + posible two overcards, this is not a bad play at all.
If both of his OC's are live your the underdog, and even if they are not hes still has around 35%(?) chance to win if you get him all in on flop.
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by biggle10 » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:45 pm
Kedoran wrote:Bitch free zone??
He bet his flush draw + posible two overcards, this is not a bad play at all.
If both of his OC's are live your the underdog, and even if they are not hes still has around 35%(?) chance to win if you get him all in on flop.
Bitch free zone = regardless of how opponent or hero played a place to come complain that one lost a hand. Includes times when hero is behind the whole way, hero is still entitled to bitch about it.
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by blatman25 » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:11 pm
Biggle, he wasn't asking what the Bitch-free zone IS, he was suggesting that this would be better posted in the Bitch-free zone.
Rode, don't worry about it. You probably made this back in an hour anyway.
If you had one this hand you'd have forgotten it in 10 minutes, so just do the same with the lost hands as well.
Rode, don't worry about it. You probably made this back in an hour anyway.
If you had one this hand you'd have forgotten it in 10 minutes, so just do the same with the lost hands as well.
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by rode_dog » Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:50 pm
Yeah, the subject and the comments at the end are bitching, but I was actually hoping for feedback on my play. I was a slightly angry at the time, so I kinda went off the deep end ranting.
Anyway, I'm not sure If I played the flop correctly here. He bet $3 leaving him about $14 in his stack. I have a good read on him. I am not folding KK here, I don't believe for a minute that he has me beat. AA-QQ or a small set are possible. AA-QQ are pretty unlikely b/c this LAG would have re-raised PF. He's been doing it all night. He will call with a drawing hand and will bet it on the flop, so this seems most likely. I've seen him do both. It is also possibe he played a small pair and either has a set or a lower over pair. I'm pretty sure he would check or CR the flop with a set, so I think he is about 80% to be holding 2 spades, I think he is most likely to have Ax maybe JT KT KJ.
Even looking back, I can't find a reason to flat call. A pot size re-raise is $6. Would that have been a better choice? Was the $14 re-raise too large? I think he was unlikely to fold, but at least 50/50 to re-raise my re-raise. I could just feel he was comitted to going down with the hand.
While I think my read was dead on, I'm not sure my play we correct. Any suggestions?
I think he was sure I had aces or kings and he knew his draw was a big dog. He felt like gambling with his stack and got lucky.
Anyway, I'm not sure If I played the flop correctly here. He bet $3 leaving him about $14 in his stack. I have a good read on him. I am not folding KK here, I don't believe for a minute that he has me beat. AA-QQ or a small set are possible. AA-QQ are pretty unlikely b/c this LAG would have re-raised PF. He's been doing it all night. He will call with a drawing hand and will bet it on the flop, so this seems most likely. I've seen him do both. It is also possibe he played a small pair and either has a set or a lower over pair. I'm pretty sure he would check or CR the flop with a set, so I think he is about 80% to be holding 2 spades, I think he is most likely to have Ax maybe JT KT KJ.
Even looking back, I can't find a reason to flat call. A pot size re-raise is $6. Would that have been a better choice? Was the $14 re-raise too large? I think he was unlikely to fold, but at least 50/50 to re-raise my re-raise. I could just feel he was comitted to going down with the hand.
While I think my read was dead on, I'm not sure my play we correct. Any suggestions?
I think he was sure I had aces or kings and he knew his draw was a big dog. He felt like gambling with his stack and got lucky.
by mervhage » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:35 pm
Rode_Dog wrote:Yeah, the subject and the comments at the end are bitching, but I was actually hoping for feedback on my play. I was a slightly angry at the time, so I kinda went off the deep end ranting.
Anyway, I'm not sure If I played the flop correctly here. He bet $3 leaving him about $14 in his stack. I have a good read on him. I am not folding KK here, I don't believe for a minute that he has me beat. AA-QQ or a small set are possible. AA-QQ are pretty unlikely b/c this LAG would have re-raised PF. He's been doing it all night. He will call with a drawing hand and will bet it on the flop, so this seems most likely. I've seen him do both. It is also possibe he played a small pair and either has a set or a lower over pair. I'm pretty sure he would check or CR the flop with a set, so I think he is about 80% to be holding 2 spades, I think he is most likely to have Ax maybe JT KT KJ.
Even looking back, I can't find a reason to flat call. A pot size re-raise is $6. Would that have been a better choice? Was the $14 re-raise too large? I think he was unlikely to fold, but at least 50/50 to re-raise my re-raise. I could just feel he was comitted to going down with the hand.
While I think my read was dead on, I'm not sure my play we correct. Any suggestions?
I think he was sure I had aces or kings and he knew his draw was a big dog. He felt like gambling with his stack and got lucky.
I like the play. Bottom line, you read him correctly that he is on the draw and hence his open bet. Using your info, you push back and basically force him to call with his flush draw. One of the first things I learned from MJ upon discovering PPSG was the concept of punishing draws to the maximum. You did that here and ended up with the shit end of the stick, but you made the right play nonetheless.
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by poormanbilly » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:16 am
Rode_Dog wrote:While I think my read was dead on, I'm not sure my play we correct. Any suggestions?
Here's my suggestion which you may or may not have done.
1. Rechip and keep playing this table.
2. Remeber this guy and try and find him whenever you play.
3. Don't worry about losing chips to this donk.
If he's a bad player, you need to stick around and take your money back, plus whatever he has left. Most people get up and leave after a bad beat like this. That's the number one mistake I used to make in ring games. Now, I just rechip and keep on going. You've payed a lot of money to learn what type of player this guy is. You need to put that money to good use. I end up breaking most people I label donks if they stick around. I'm always happy when they take pots off the good players because I know that money has a high percentage of ending up in my pocket. I'm learning to not even care when they take pots off me.
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by jacedk » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:06 am
Your play was absolutely right. You want him to call, not fold, right? Like Merv said, let his fishy ass pay for his precious draw, which will only win just better than 3 times out of ten.
LOL!
Zardnok wrote:He tells me he is a finance major and Poker is all luck.
Sorta like that whole Stock Market thing??
LOL!
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