Tight Poker

[lsutiger]

The thing that irritated me is that they waited until the river to spring it.

***** Hand History for Game 3086748304 *****
$2/$4 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 24, 03:51:27 EDT 2005
Table Bad Beat Jackpot #1096643 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 9: lsu0tiger ( $156.50 )
Seat 2: woodferd1986 ( $43.25 )
Seat 4: cigaraday ( $61 )
Seat 6: Blade_Runner ( $38 )
Seat 7: GOLFERMIKE2 ( $125 )
Seat 3: TIGER65 ( $144 )
Seat 8: eccrichard ( $92 )
Seat 5: funca2000 ( $94 )
Seat 10: whatup ( $96 )
funca2000 posts small blind [$1].
Blade_Runner posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lsu0tiger [ Js Ah ]
eccrichard calls [$2].
lsu0tiger raises [$4].
whatup folds.
woodferd1986 folds.
TIGER65 calls [$4].
cigaraday folds.
funca2000 folds.
Blade_Runner calls [$2].
eccrichard calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 5d, Ad ]
Blade_Runner checks.
eccrichard checks.
lsu0tiger bets [$2].
TIGER65 calls [$2].
Blade_Runner calls [$2].
eccrichard folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
Blade_Runner checks.
lsu0tiger bets [$4].
TIGER65 calls [$4].
Blade_Runner calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
Blade_Runner checks.
lsu0tiger bets [$4].
TIGER65 raises [$8].
Blade_Runner calls [$8].
lsu0tiger raises [$8].
TIGER65 raises [$8].
Blade_Runner calls [$8].
lsu0tiger calls [$4].
TIGER65 shows [ Kd, 3d ] a flush, ace high.
Blade_Runner doesn't show [ 8d, Qd ] a flush, ace high.
lsu0tiger shows [ Js, Ah ] a full house, Jacks full of aces.
lsu0tiger wins $79.50 from the main pot with a full house, Jacks full of aces.

[velar]

Impossible for either one to get away from their hands, but I do not go as crazy on the river given the boat threat.

If I were Blade_runner, I could see myself raising the flop 'cause I've already got 2 bets in front of me. It's more for value and you can't be thinking "I have to get somebody out" 'cause it's limit and that won't happen.

I agree that a raise on the river would make more sense to "spring the trap", but we know it's already too late.

Aside from the crazy river betting, does anybody play this differently if you flop the nut flush?

[mervhage]

Fortunate turn card for our hero. I'm not exactly sure what TIGER is doing cold calling with K3s, but that's his business. Blade Runner was unlucky b/c I would make the same call from the blind with the pot odds and he got caught in a war on the river thanks to TIGER. But our hero came out on top w/ a nice pot thanks to the jackass play of TIGER.

I'd probably lead out on the flop with the nut flush or raise the flop, b/c it's unlikely you'll be able to get much out of other hands on the turn.

[biggle10]

Aside from the crazy river betting, does anybody play this differently if you flop the nut flush?

If I flop the nut flush, I'll wait til turn to raise with only 2 people in.
If I flop less than nut flush, I play it fast. Nobody folds in limit and you'll get action from A or K singleton.

[lsutiger]

Well, the door swings both ways - got sucked into a hand in the BB and played it as best I could. I am glad I learned my lesson from before and didn't go nuts on the river.

Conservative play, but I figure it saved me this hand. Still trying to force myself to see that I need to fold these hands. Only reason I played it was because it was suited and after the flop, I had the odds to call. I remember I specifically did not raise the turn because I was trying to CR....worked out in the end I guess.

***** Hand History for Game 3087056989 *****
$2/$4 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 24, 06:19:25 EDT 2005
Table Bad Beat Jackpot #1096478 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: zyxw8888 ( $92.75 )
Seat 2: Paris2000 ( $107 )
Seat 4: VICTORIA1 ( $80 )
Seat 5: _Double_J ( $84.25 )
Seat 6: RM2128 ( $95.50 )
Seat 7: hasek ( $79.50 )
Seat 9: DIPPLE21 ( $291.25 )
Seat 10: JackedUp1 ( $137.50 )
Seat 3: lsu0tiger ( $86 )
Seat 8: michigan_34 ( $78.13 )
lsu0tiger posts small blind [$1].
VICTORIA1 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lsu0tiger [ Kd 2d ]
_Double_J folds.
RM2128 did not respond in time.
RM2128 folds.
hasek raises [$4].
michigan_34 folds.
DIPPLE21 folds.
JackedUp1 folds.
zyxw8888 folds.
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Paris2000 calls [$4].
lsu0tiger calls [$3].
VICTORIA1 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 9h, Ad ]lsu0tiger checks.
VICTORIA1 folds.
hasek checks.
Paris2000 bets [$2].
lsu0tiger calls [$2].
hasek calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
lsu0tiger checks.
hasek checks.
Paris2000 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
lsu0tiger bets [$4].
hasek raises [$8].
Paris2000 folds.
lsu0tiger calls [$4].
hasek shows [ Ac, Ah ] a full house, Aces full of sixes.
lsu0tiger doesn't show [ Kd, 2d ] a flush, ace high.
hasek wins $36 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of sixes.

[caffiend]

Aside from the crazy river betting, does anybody play this differently if you flop the nut flush?

Damn, I went back to look and saw it's going to make me look like Mr. Know-It-All. If I flop the nut flush in the blinds I'll generally check-raise with it, and occasionally snow it to the turn in late position. The exception to that is when there's two big cards, or two adjacent cards on the flop.

In any case where someone's more likely than usual to hit two pair like that I'll generally bet it out for fear of giving them a free boat. Odds are you'll get reasonable action then anyway, even if they only have the straight draw.

[hultin]

lsutiger Your play on the first hand is pretty good. The only thing I wouldnt have done that you did was raise preflop with AJ from that posistion. Sometimes its a good idea ot raise AJ there but I would say usually not. It worked out though.

The 2nd hand you posted later from K2s in the SB thats a HELLA EASY FOLD. K2s is a HORRID HAND fold fold fold fold fold fold fold!

[lsutiger]

I been doing some reading and some people suggest playing any suited from the blinds or Kx - now obviously this is controversial and I have been working on getting my hands played down. Seems to be two schools of thought on this - blind protection and stack protection.

I think i am too aggressive in protecting my blinds, but I also don't want people to walk all over me. Still something I am looking at...Poker Tracker is great to help look at this..my blind play is not so good.

As far as AJ goes, I raise sometimes, although usually not in that early position. I raised at this table because the few tight people would raise me with AQ or higher, so I get a good barometer on what people are holding. I agree this isn't a place to usually raise - this one was table dependant.