Seeking advice: no-limit vs. limt
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Seeking advice: no-limit vs. limt
by panhandle88 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:51 pm
Disclaimer: yes I tried searching the forums but found my results to be unsatisfactory though I am sure this topic has been addressed before somewhere.
This weekend I'll be visiting the only casino in Texas, the Lucky Eagle. Its in Eagle Pass down on the border with Mexico and is run by the Kickapoo tribe.
I've been there once before and if memory serves, they have some no-limit tournaments but my schedule prevents me from playing in any of these. So I will be playing at their limit hold-em cash games. I think $2/4 or $3/6 are their only offerings.
I usually play no-limit tourneys online and I have some experience with playing no-limit ring games online and live. I wanted to query the esteemed poker minds of the forum (now that I've flattered you, you are obligated to respond) for any advice/tips/strategy/differences I should expect when switchint from no-limit to limit.
Any advice, be it specific or vague platitudes or general rules of thumb, will be considered then promptly forgotten when I get there and start drinking.
Thank you.
This weekend I'll be visiting the only casino in Texas, the Lucky Eagle. Its in Eagle Pass down on the border with Mexico and is run by the Kickapoo tribe.
I've been there once before and if memory serves, they have some no-limit tournaments but my schedule prevents me from playing in any of these. So I will be playing at their limit hold-em cash games. I think $2/4 or $3/6 are their only offerings.
I usually play no-limit tourneys online and I have some experience with playing no-limit ring games online and live. I wanted to query the esteemed poker minds of the forum (now that I've flattered you, you are obligated to respond) for any advice/tips/strategy/differences I should expect when switchint from no-limit to limit.
Any advice, be it specific or vague platitudes or general rules of thumb, will be considered then promptly forgotten when I get there and start drinking.
Thank you.
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by randy72560 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:22 pm
Yeah, there are tons of drunken tourists and they just want "action" and they won't be paying attention to starting hand value or much else. They are just there to have a good time.. That's not to say that you cannot win money, but even Aces will be in bad shape when 10 players go to the flop! 
Just try and have fun and most important of all, find a NL cash game somewhere!
Just try and have fun and most important of all, find a NL cash game somewhere!
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by neverthink » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:56 pm
Limit was my original game, and I played a few tournies so FWIW here it is. Play tight throughout the whole thing unless you only have about 4-5 times the sum of the blinds, in which case it's time to find a hand, pocket pairs, SCs, the range widens the closer you are to being blinded away. I'd also advise playing it like the nuts. Unless your up against an army of callers.
The beginning will be insane and your average hands like TPTK will be take on the same value as sets. Nobody cares when the blinds and bets are so small. It'll most likely be capped every street, crazier than cash games imo. Just hope it holds up is all you can do.
That's about as broader strategy as I can think of. I left limit coz it tilted me, a lot.
Enjoy!
The beginning will be insane and your average hands like TPTK will be take on the same value as sets. Nobody cares when the blinds and bets are so small. It'll most likely be capped every street, crazier than cash games imo. Just hope it holds up is all you can do.
That's about as broader strategy as I can think of. I left limit coz it tilted me, a lot.
Enjoy!
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by snickers99 » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:13 am
Live Low Limit is a little rough (it's what I play live). You pretty much have to sit there and wait for a monster. There will be multiple people in almost every hand (as others have mentioned). It's very difficult to bluff anybody (I don't even bother). Remember, it's Limit, not NL. Hard to get rid of anybody for one more bet. It will be frustrating going from NL to Limit if you don't adjust (they are totally different games).
Watch the players carefully. Most will let you know what they have by how they bet. Especially when you're not in a hand, watch everyone. Pay attention and figure out who knows what they're doing and who doesn't. Also, I see a lot of players not raise preflop with AA, KK, AK, etc. Just because they didn't raise PF doesn't mean they don't have a monster.
Try not to go on tilt. It will be difficult, espeically when you have AA get cracked by some asshole playing 62o. Tap the table, say good hand, move on. It's a cliche, but you want him to play like that.
Limit is almost more about not losing than it is about winning. Ram and jam when you think you're ahead....fold when you think you're behind. Watch for coordinated boards (a lot of people will be playing anything...espeically any suited cards). As Johnny will tell you...straights and flushes...straights and flushes....watch out for them. Play your odds.
Limit can be fun. Most tables are chatty and social. People are there to have fun and gamble. You can make money...just pay attention and try not to tilt.
Oh, and there will be one luckbox who will play crap and hit every fucking time. Wait him out. He will build a big stack, not leave when he's ahead, and will lose it all back.
If you have some time, search for my Niagara Falls Trip Reports (there's quite a few and they're quite long). While maybe my play isn't the best, there is some good advice from others in there and you'll get an idea on how poeple play. And a Trip Report from you when you get back is mandatory! Have fun!!!!
Watch the players carefully. Most will let you know what they have by how they bet. Especially when you're not in a hand, watch everyone. Pay attention and figure out who knows what they're doing and who doesn't. Also, I see a lot of players not raise preflop with AA, KK, AK, etc. Just because they didn't raise PF doesn't mean they don't have a monster.
Try not to go on tilt. It will be difficult, espeically when you have AA get cracked by some asshole playing 62o. Tap the table, say good hand, move on. It's a cliche, but you want him to play like that.
Limit is almost more about not losing than it is about winning. Ram and jam when you think you're ahead....fold when you think you're behind. Watch for coordinated boards (a lot of people will be playing anything...espeically any suited cards). As Johnny will tell you...straights and flushes...straights and flushes....watch out for them. Play your odds.
Limit can be fun. Most tables are chatty and social. People are there to have fun and gamble. You can make money...just pay attention and try not to tilt.
Oh, and there will be one luckbox who will play crap and hit every fucking time. Wait him out. He will build a big stack, not leave when he's ahead, and will lose it all back.
If you have some time, search for my Niagara Falls Trip Reports (there's quite a few and they're quite long). While maybe my play isn't the best, there is some good advice from others in there and you'll get an idea on how poeple play. And a Trip Report from you when you get back is mandatory! Have fun!!!!
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by mirage » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:04 pm
I don't play Limit too often, though I did start out playing limit. I would suggest that if you have a hand and you are OOP, i.e. TPGK, overpair, combo draw, etc., that if you bet the flop and get raised, do not let it discourage you from leading the turn. Many limit players will go nuts on the flop and fold the turn, they are trying to get free cards to draw with sometimes as little as overcards to the board. If you are raised on the turn it's much more read dependent but if you have a hand, don't let unexpected flop action scare you off it.
Also, like Snickers said, don't be afraid to play like a nit because you won't have any trouble getting called down anyway. No one is paying attention. Neverthink also has a good point, when you get suited connectors and suited one gappers, it's not a bad idea to see a flop because you'll probably get great odds to do so. If you only hit a straight with it once in a blue moon, you'll still make a large profit long run because it's so disguised, especially against inferior opponents.
Much of it will depend on the cards, unfortunately, but if you run halfway decent you stand to make a large profit.
Also, like Snickers said, don't be afraid to play like a nit because you won't have any trouble getting called down anyway. No one is paying attention. Neverthink also has a good point, when you get suited connectors and suited one gappers, it's not a bad idea to see a flop because you'll probably get great odds to do so. If you only hit a straight with it once in a blue moon, you'll still make a large profit long run because it's so disguised, especially against inferior opponents.
Much of it will depend on the cards, unfortunately, but if you run halfway decent you stand to make a large profit.
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Re: Seeking advice: no-limit vs. limt
by caffiend » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:08 pm
Panhandle88 wrote:This weekend I'll be visiting the only casino in Texas, the Lucky Eagle. Its in Eagle Pass down on the border with Mexico and is run by the Kickapoo tribe.
The fact that it's the only casino around may influence the games a bit. It isn't uncommon for people to "play big" at no-limit tables. A $1-$2 game has significantly different staking requirements when it's played with $20 raises and reraises before the flop.
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Re: Seeking advice: no-limit vs. limt
by mirage » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:12 pm
He's playing 1/2 or 3/6 limit.caffiend wrote:Panhandle88 wrote:This weekend I'll be visiting the only casino in Texas, the Lucky Eagle. Its in Eagle Pass down on the border with Mexico and is run by the Kickapoo tribe.
The fact that it's the only casino around may influence the games a bit. It isn't uncommon for people to "play big" at no-limit tables. A $1-$2 game has significantly different staking requirements when it's played with $20 raises and reraises before the flop.
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Re: Seeking advice: no-limit vs. limt
by caffiend » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:45 pm
Mirage wrote:He's playing 1/2 or 3/6 limit.
Oh, duh. Somehow I managed to transform the question into something else entirely. Yeah, ignore me.
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by panhandle88 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:34 am
Woo! Ok thanks for all the replies. I'll be returning Sunday night so I'll tell you how it went soon thereafter.
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by panhandle88 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:35 pm
dammit i just typed up a report and it blanked out on me...
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