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Bubble play against multiple loose opponents
by jacedk » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:34 pm
I need some general advice on playing the bubble against several loose donks with the same or bigger stacks than me.
This is a situation I find myself in often, and it is giving me serious trouble, because as a rule these guys will call steal raises and pushes with the most marginal of holdings if you have even the slightest image as a blind stealer.
I think the main problem is, that for these guys, the thought of being bluffed off their blinds is worse than the thought of loosing the tourney. And since quality stealing hands only come along ever so often, I often feel I'm missig a lot of stealing opportunities. The result is that I get impatient and call or push a hand I shouldn't have.
A good example is the latest hand I played, where blinds are 100/200 and UTG folds. I raise to 600 with
and the loose SB pushes. I call and SB flips over
, which hold up, and I'm down to 700 chips and out soon after.
Now, I know the obvious answer is, If I'm willing to call a push, then why not push instead of raise. Maybe this is the answer, but the point is, that these people are so willing to gambool that I get called more often than not.
This is a situation I find myself in often, and it is giving me serious trouble, because as a rule these guys will call steal raises and pushes with the most marginal of holdings if you have even the slightest image as a blind stealer.
I think the main problem is, that for these guys, the thought of being bluffed off their blinds is worse than the thought of loosing the tourney. And since quality stealing hands only come along ever so often, I often feel I'm missig a lot of stealing opportunities. The result is that I get impatient and call or push a hand I shouldn't have.
A good example is the latest hand I played, where blinds are 100/200 and UTG folds. I raise to 600 with
and the loose SB pushes. I call and SB flips over
, which hold up, and I'm down to 700 chips and out soon after.
Now, I know the obvious answer is, If I'm willing to call a push, then why not push instead of raise. Maybe this is the answer, but the point is, that these people are so willing to gambool that I get called more often than not.
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HI!
by Dday44 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:01 pm
Very circular logic - You will raise a bit then call an allin but won't go allin because they will call- is very strange logic- plus may need to evaulate why you raising UTG with a pretty weak holdings if you not yet in situation where you have to raise. Much better to push from SB or button.
If they loose and will call, then you actually don't need to get involved until you get good hand as there is good likelihood that they will eliminate each other.
Cardinal sin in my book is calling away a tourny - unless you have very good cards- when you call you can only win by having the best hand at the end- when you bet or push you give yourself two ways to win- two is better than 1 I think
Plus, you can actually add another weapon to arsenal and just call then bet 1 unit on flop regardless- can be nice change of pace and effective- a call on the bubble is very scary to opponents- reeks of trap
All the best, Dave
If they loose and will call, then you actually don't need to get involved until you get good hand as there is good likelihood that they will eliminate each other.
Cardinal sin in my book is calling away a tourny - unless you have very good cards- when you call you can only win by having the best hand at the end- when you bet or push you give yourself two ways to win- two is better than 1 I think
Plus, you can actually add another weapon to arsenal and just call then bet 1 unit on flop regardless- can be nice change of pace and effective- a call on the bubble is very scary to opponents- reeks of trap
All the best, Dave
- Dday44
Re: HI!
by jacedk » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:41 pm
Dday44 wrote:Very circular logic - You will raise a bit then call an allin but won't go allin because they will call- is very strange logic- plus may need to evaulate why you raising UTG with a pretty weak holdings if you not yet in situation where you have to raise. Much better to push from SB or button.
I was actually on the button when I made this play, but I see your point. This hand is an example of how I let impatience get the better of me by making a move too soon and ended up calling my tournament away.
Thanks for the advice Dave.
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