50NL 6max: Top 2 in unraised, multiway pot

[mirage]

Villain making the super big raise is something like 30/15/1.6 over 100+ hands. I found this to be a very very tough spot for me, almost a coinflip between push and fold, that agg factor being so small was really throwing me.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($47.50)
MP ($38.50)
Button ($50.90)
SB ($28.45)
Hero ($46.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, K.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 8, 9, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, SB calls $1.

Turn: ($4.50) K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, SB raises to $12

[poormanbilly]

Run, Forrest, Run

[sfustsh]

Flopped straight, flopped set, king changes nothing. Fold. You are at best against another two pair.

Another conceivable hand that the king has improved is K7h.

[ugignadl]

It's a tough spot. If his aggression factor is really that low, I'd call and reevaluate on the river. See if you can get to a showdown for cheap, and make notes.

[neverthink]

It's a tough spot. If his aggression factor is really that low, I'd call and reevaluate on the river. See if you can get to a showdown for cheap, and make notes.

Yeah, I think the thing that inclines me towards a call is that you have position on him on the river. He will sometimes have a worse 2 pair here as well like Sfu mentioned. Folding is ok as well though, but bear it in mind in future hands. Raising is obv terrible as I imagine few worse hands call you., he def cannot call you with a draw on the turn if you shove, well, shouldn't.

[mirage]

If I just call the turn, the pot will be over 30 and he will have about 15 behind on the river. Can we realistically expect the rest won't go in regardless of the river card? That's why I think it's either push/fold on the turn, it's going in most likely on the river if I just call anyway, and in the off chance it's a poorly played combo draw or something (very unlikely) then I charge him to draw also.

[mirage]

I guess we're done here then...

I tanked and was beginning to lean towards a call when I timed out, probably for the best.

[ugignadl]

It's definitely not a fold. I can't agree with you about the river either. A player (read: donkfish) with low aggro will not always put the stack in on the river. This thinking will only lose you money. Don't overestimate the competition, don't underestimate, just use your best guess. With 15 behind and over 30 in the pot this does equate to them pushing the river with any 2. To us, it might: we are not raising the turn like that without planning on pushing the river if called, regardless of the card. However they may go for a c-r or even c-f.

Finally, I think this hand would have a showdown. Check your PT for their cards?

[mirage]

Nope, no showdown.

[ugignadl]

What was the river action?

[mirage]

UTG and I folded, SB took it down on the turn.

[ugignadl]

And you never see SB holding AK here? Ugh.

[mirage]

And you never see SB holding AK here? Ugh.

Lol, I know, right!