Awful turn with a set, huge pot...

[neverthink]

what the hell do I do here?

Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: thequarry5 ( $161.65 )
Seat 4: Bohemund ( $145.81 )
Seat 1: nozaking ( $81.05 )
Seat 5: Motzl73 ( $105.61 )
Seat 2: R_AKM_74 ( $160.25 )
Seat 6: Allmaechtig1 ( $25.12 )
nozaking posts small blind [$0.50].
R_AKM_74 posts big blind [$1].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bohemund [ Jd Jc ]

Bohemund raises [$4]
Motzl73 calls [$4]
Allmaechtig1 folds
nozaking folds
R_AKM_74 raises [$12]
Bohemund calls [$9]
Motzl73 calls [$9]

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Qh, Jh ] Pot is about $37 iirc
R_AKM_74 checks
Bohemund bets [$28]
Motzl73 calls [$28]
R_AKM_74 folds

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ] Pot is $75ish
I have $64 remaining
Villain has about $55 iirc

um...?

[faquewdikhed]

shove?

[neverthink]

shove?

Absolutely went thru my head right after saying oh shit.

[poormanbilly]

I don't get it.

[neverthink]

Ok, it may be clear that some of you are never folding here, but do you not think that this is a slightly sucky situation to be in? Does anyone play the hand differently up until the turn?

[poormanbilly]

Ok, it may be clear that some of you are never folding here, but do you not think that this is a slightly sucky situation to be in? Does anyone play the hand differently up until the turn?

OK, then. Check/fold obviously.

[labatsman]

Micro player here but........


Missing something...how come show tunes are not going off..

you have I think ....trip jacks


Push

[ihatejacks]

Fold preflop! He obviously has QQ.


Ha, no, just go all in for reals.

[randy72560]

Time to shove on the turn... The ONLY hand that beats you on the flop is QQ... On the turn the villian could have a straight, but that is where reads and putting him on a hand comes in... Minus a great read, shove... Anything else is kinda weak...

If you're going to play NL than you must be willing to risk it all and deal with the results. If you made a decision based on your read and you are wrong, fuck it, it happens to everyone. Rebuy and move on... To me, this seems like a great spot to double up...

[mirage]

You have big nuts pooooooooooooooooooooosh

If he was stupid enough to call with KT then I guess we hope the river pairs the board. The whole thing looks very standard, no problems whatsoever. If that guy is really that big a fish to commit that much PF w/ KT or T8 it's definitely buddy-list time.

[mewsiclovr]

Personally I like any line that gets all the money in the middle.

[neverthink]

Time to shove on the turn... The ONLY hand that beats you on the flop is QQ... On the turn the villian could have a straight, but that is where reads and putting him on a hand comes in... Minus a great read, shove... Anything else is kinda weak...

If you're going to play NL than you must be willing to risk it all and deal with the results. If you made a decision based on your read and you are wrong, fuck it, it happens to everyone. Rebuy and move on... To me, this seems like a great spot to double up...

Yeah, I shoved the turn, and he called and showed me T8 hearts for the straight. I didn't improve, and I can stand the loss, but I ended up putting in a lot of money when I was behind, which is why I am uncomfortable with this hand. Randy, I think even with a read that the guy was drawing, it's still impossible not to shove, as he could have been drawing at a flush and not a straight, so folding here is always weak I guess. At the moment, these are just not usually good spots to double up it seems . At no point was I worried about this guy holding QQ, if he had that then fine, whatever. It was only the straight. To be precise, what I hate here is that there is only one real action to take, which means I am trapped.

The only other line I can think of are open shoving the flop, does anyone ever do that and managed to get called? I really don't want to risk trying to checkraise all in. Probably I am being too critical of myself, but I feel really poor about putting over half a stack in while behind, it makes it not feel like a badbeat or cooler to me. The money I can handle, it is still playing with profit (though at this rate it soon won't be lol), but I can't help but question these plays when every player seems to be getting out of the way of my own monsters or outdrawing them, and thus, inevitably a fair chunk of cash is going in when I am behind, a la this hand.

[neverthink]

Fold preflop! He obviously has QQ.

Ha, no, just go all in for reals.

Lol, look at the history on the flop, I thought the first player (pf reraiser) may have flopped a set of Queens when he checked the flop. As soon as he checked I thought to myself " why the fck did you call preflop, I am always doing this and getting into the shit lately", not that I'll ever stop probably .

[poormanbilly]

Probably I am being too critical of myself, but I feel really poor about putting over half a stack in while behind, it makes it not feel like a badbeat or cooler to me.

Ya dude..... I think you're being a little too results oriented. Are you really going to be folding the turn here ever? The is a scary card. An offsuit 9? Not so much. Shit happens.

[poormanbilly]

Probably I am being too critical of myself, but I feel really poor about putting over half a stack in while behind, it makes it not feel like a badbeat or cooler to me.

Ya dude..... I think you're being a little too results oriented. Are you really going to be folding the turn here ever? The is a scary card. An offsuit 9? Not so much. Shit happens.

To quote myself. You aren't paying off a flush, so this guy was basically drawing to a 3-outter minus runner runner crap. Consider it a bad beat