2 Ladies Meet Their Sister, But Then Big Brother Appears!

[LadyWrestler]

$10/$20 Limit Cash Game, 10 Seat Table, 1 Empty Seat.

Reads: I have notes on villains UTG1(LAG/M rss+cls lo drws) and BB(TAG)

PRE-FLOP: (9 players)
Heroine is Button with
UTG1: Raises to $20
(5 Folds, 1 Empty)
D (Heroine): Raises to $30
SB: Folds
BB: Raises to $40 (Capped)

UTG1: Calls $20, to $40
D (Heroine): Calls $10, to $40

(Pot Size= $125)
FLOP: (3 players)

BB: Bets $10
UTG1: Raises to $20
D (Heroine): Raises to $30

BB: Raises to $40 (Capped)
UTG1: Calls $20, to $40
D (Heroine): Calls $10, to $40

(Pot Size= $245)
TURN: (3 players)

BB: Bets $20
UTG1: Raises to $40
D (Heroine): ? (Damn King! Grrr!)

[sfustsh]

I don't know how you can fold this hand. I might call but I really want to raise. He could easily have AKs here.

Either way I'm not folding a set of queens when he could easily NOT have a set of kings.

[carrera]

3 people, capped PF and on flop...

You expect someone to have AA.

I think you have to pay it off, see what BB does.

They both have enough money to keep capping turn and river?

[mirage]

I think you have to keep raising. I assume he had pocket K's since you are posting it but in your shoes I cap turn and river if he'll let me.

Then again, I've never played limit at this level so maybe I'm not the best one to comment.

[easy_as_pie]

BB probably has AsKs, AA or KK.

UTG probably has AK, combo draw...maybe KQ and set since he is laggy.

cant exclude AA/KK either but i think that BB is much more likely to have

those hands

i think that you can call here and check raise river if UTG bets. i also

really want to raise but at the same time I dont feel like puking when and

if BB caps

[LadyWrestler]

They both have enough money to keep capping turn and river?

Yes, all 3 of us had enough at the table for capping all the way.

[cavman]

i'm bad at limit, but i can't imagine not being happy to cap this on every street. Maybe just call on the river to hope to save a bet or two. this looks like it has to be a bad beat post to me. there's no way i'd be folding, but occasionally you're beat.

[LadyWrestler]

I do not want to sound corny (but sometimes I do...golly gee), but I think someone mentioned he had never played at this level. I just want to say, on any of my posts, I welcome opinions from everyone! That way we might all get a chance to learn together! Believe me, if it were not for the size of my available poker bankroll, I probably would not be playing at this level either. Sometimes I play a $.05/$.10 just to have some fun...and usually get my (tight, but very sexy) butt kicked there!

[fifo]

I'd definitely show this down. No way you can't - and I don't really think that you seriously thought about that. Bad beat or not.

Let's say LAG guy: UTG raises with any ATs+, any PP 77+ and any suited connector JT+
TAG: Caps with AKs and QQ+. If he knows that LAG is LAG, he might even cap with JJ or TT or AQs, figuring that LAG raises with any number of hands he beats and that your reraise means AJs+

So LAG either AQ, KQ or AKs with the NFD? 77 - though that is prob. wishful thinking?
TAG ... AA, KK QQ AKs, AQs, JJ (though probably not)

I must admit that I'm intimidated by the bet sizes and therefore automatically assume competent players behind the stacks. But if I they play just a shade as they do my normal level, they could have a lot of different hands. If TAG knows that LAG is LAG, he might even go wild with TT or JJ, figuring that this is enough on a Q-high board.
So, I'd call the turn, look what BB does. If he keeps going, I curse my luck and pay off. There's simply no way you can lay a set of QQ down in a - then - 20ish BB pot. (And, looking at the other responses, this seems even weak/tight )

[LadyWrestler]

Thank you, guys!

The hand continues (with a mind of its own now)...

$10/$20 Limit Cash Game, 10 Seat Table, 1 Empty Seat.

Reads: I have notes on villains UTG1(LAG/M rss+cls lo drws) and BB(TAG)

PRE-FLOP: (9 players)
Heroine is Button with
UTG1: Raises to $20
(5 Folds, 1 Empty)
D (Heroine): Raises to $30
SB: Folds
BB: Raises to $40 (Capped)

UTG1: Calls $20, to $40
D (Heroine): Calls $10, to $40

(Pot Size= $125)
FLOP: (3 players)

BB: Bets $10
UTG1: Raises to $20
D (Heroine): Raises to $30

BB: Raises to $40 (Capped)
UTG1: Calls $20, to $40
D (Heroine): Calls $10, to $40

(Pot Size= $245)
TURN: (3 players)

BB: Bets $20
UTG1: Raises to $40
D (Heroine): Calls $40, to $40

BB: Raises to $60
UTG1: Raises to $80 (Capped)
D (Heroine): Calls $40, to $80

BB: Calls $20, to $80

(Pot Size= $485)
RIVER: (3 players)

BB: Bets $20
UTG1: Raises to $40
D (Heroine) ? (Gulp! I have to keep going now...all the way out of the plane, and pray the chute opens, yes?): Calls $40, to $40

BB: Raises to $60
UTG1: Raises to $80 (Capped)
D (Heroine): Calls $40, to $80

BB: Calls $20, to $80

(Pot Size= $725)
SHOWDOWN: (3 players)

BB (Shows): (Pair of Aces)

UTG1: (3 Sevens)

D (Heroine): Wins pot (with 3 Queens)

[fifo]

HA! I was right! (sort of... )

Unbelievable, btw, this is the first hand I see where it was capped on streets and pf.

BB must have been on tilt though. Or temporarily braindead. There's no way I would cap it every street with a measly pair if two guys go all crazy on me and Q and K on the board.

[LadyWrestler]

HA! I was right! (sort of... )

Yes, you certainly were!

[easy_as_pie]

HA! I was right! (sort of... )

Unbelievable, btw, this is the first hand I see where it was capped on streets and pf.

BB must have been on tilt though. Or temporarily braindead. There's no way I would cap it every street with a measly pair if two guys go all crazy on me and Q and K on the board.

and i was wrong?

just kidding

seriously though, the river is interesting because the pot is huge but i think that hero is ahead here very very rarely given the action.
can we find a fold here?

[shun]

I probably am tight-weak. At first I wanted to call but I think raising here and then slowing down if someone raises again is appropriate.

BB is the easiest to put on a hand. He probably has AA or KK and maybe AKsp if he's willing to open bet that flop and then cap it for value with the flush draw. The thing with AA v KK is that there are only 3 combinations of KK possible and 6 possible combinations of AA, which means if he only has AA or KK you're a favorite against his range.

UTG1 could have a wider range of hands. KQ, 77, 55, KK, and AA being most likely, while AK and AQ are possible too. It's fairly tough for him to raise on the turn with AQ and tough for him to have AK on the flop but it's possible.

With that said, against those ranges you're in really good shape considering there are only 3 combinations of the hand that beats you.

I wouldn't have said this initially reading this point, but you should definitely raise. If someone reraises I'm probably just calling down.

[mirage]

Great job, nh!

Makes me want to play 10/20 Limit