AKo in a PP sammich

[johnny]

Given how things are going tonight I'm pretty happy with the way I played this, but I want to see if my contentment is misguided. I didn't want to PFR with UTG+1s raise (25VP, 15% PFR) and the crazy bitch UTG still to act after me (56 VP). I wasn't in love with AKo but didn't want to fold it for $1.25. So, I'm having doubts about it. Post flop a call means I'm beat at this table so I put it out there to see.


Full Tilt 0.10/0.25 NL Hold'em Ring (8 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 2: LP ($21.25)
Seat 3: CO (Hero) ($20.40)
Seat 4: Button ($24.65)
Seat 5: Small blind ($49.50)
Seat 6: Big blind ($28.70)
Seat 7: UTG ($24.75)
Seat 8: UTG+1 ($22)
Seat 9: MP ($10.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with
UTG calls ($0.25), UTG+1 raises ($1.25), 1 fold, kq, 2 folds, Hero calls ($1.25), 1 fold, Small blind calls ($1.15), Big blind folds, UTG calls ($1)

Flop: ($5.25) (5 players)
Small blind checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets ($2.50), Small blind calls ($2.50), 1 fold, UTG+1 raises ($5), Hero folds, Small blind calls ($2.50)

Turn: ($17.75) (3 players)
Small blind bets ($1), UTG+1 raises ($3), Small blind raises ($5), UTG+1 calls ($2)

River: ($28.75) (2 players)
Small blind bets ($8), UTG+1 calls ($8)

Final Pot: $41.6 ($2.15 rake)

Results below:
Small blind has (four of a kind, Jacks)
UTG+1 has
Outcome: Small blind wins $41.60

[sfustsh]

Wow 4 jacks, holy shit.

[mirage]

With 5 players in play, not being the original PFR, and whiffing the flop, I'm content to c/f without odds to draw to overs. Someone likely got a piece of this and we are behind, and we have no f/e to bluff anyone out since we were not the PFR.

[mervhage]

I prefer to define how strong my AK is by reraising preflop. I'd make it $3 to go. Since KK will almost always 3-bet, I can muck AK with no worries preflop.

Also, you're in the CO and you have excellent position, so IMO, that's all the more reason to reraise preflop.

Good that you got away from it on the flop though.

[johnny]

They just called the reraise here.... I could use a little insight as to what that tells me. They could have had JJ, probably not AJ but maybe, probably not AA but maybe, another AK is possible. What would you be thinking on the flop?



Full Tilt 0.10/0.25 NL Hold'em Ring (8 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: LP ($10.60)
Seat 2: CO ($31.60)
Seat 3: ($24.90)
Seat 5: Small blind ($10.45)
Seat 6: Big blind (Hero) ($25)
Seat 7: UTG ($36.10)
Seat 8: UTG+1 ($24)
Seat 9: MP ($25.70)

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with
1 fold, UTG+1 calls ($0.25), MP raises ($1), Small blind is (feeling), LP calls ($1), 2 folds, called (ray), 1 fold, adds ($0.10), Hero raises ($3), 1 fold, MP calls ($2), LP calls ($2)

Flop: ($9.6) (4 players)
Hero bets ($5), 2 folds, bet (of), Hero mucks

Final Pot: $8.9 ($0.45 rake)

Results below:
Outcome: Hero wins $8.90

This converter is weird... Small blind is feeling?

[fifo]

Flop: ($9.6) (4 players)
Hero bets ($5), 2 folds, bet (of), Hero mucks

Final Pot: $8.9 ($0.45 rake)

Results below:
Outcome: Hero wins $8.90

This converter is weird... Small blind is feeling?

Definitely so. How can you win less than the pot minus rake?

You won that hand, right (not quite sure what this "bet (of)" is supposed to mean)? As of their hands... First guy limps with 9Ts, second raises with TT?

[johnny]

I don't know what bet of means or the "called (ray)" on the flop. I have to find a better Fill Tilt converter. This one throws in random junk and flunked arithmatic.

[mirage]

Lol nice converter.

Post the raw histories and do like Ugi does and take the cards and put colons :: around them (or just post it raw.)

[neverthink]

Your original post with AK on the quad Jacks flop is a clear reraise preflop. If villains raising range is about 15 percent as you say then AK figures to be pretty good against a lot of his possible holdings, but you want it just you and him if poss. Betting the flop is not profitable after you just called pre, especially with 5 players, JT is easily a possibility for someone.

On those sort of tables, don't be too worried about getting it all in preflop with AK. I'm not saying shove it, but it sounds like you are worried about being pushed off the best hand, or what likely could make the best one post flop. If some crazy bitch 4 bets you, maybe all in, predictably or frequently then feel good about AK, not bad. Their craziness increases the value of AK.

[johnny]

Last night was a really strange one. I only hit the flop twice in 277 hands. 3 other hands I took it pre-flop. People were slow playing a lot.

Stayed home today waiting for bad weather and made over 100 BBs in 230 hands though.

[bigdil511]

Johnny,

First hand I probably just re-raise PF to help define my hand. On the flop its probably just better to c/f and save yourself the money, its more than likely one of these fuckers has a jack.

[faquewdikhed]

I dont know what you guys mean when you say "define your hand", or why it would be a good thing to do?

[mervhage]

I dont know what you guys mean when you say "define your hand", or why it would be a good thing to do?

defining your hand indicates whether or not you have the best hand preflop vs what your opponents might have. In other words, how strong is your hand compared to what the other guy has.

I don't see one instance where this would be a negative thing.

[puckhead23]

I don't have a problem with your play Johnny. There was big strength represented by the PFR from EP AND a cold call. This action defines your hand already: there is likely a big pair in front of you. I like the call with AK considering it's a drawing hand. Check/folding that flop was a no brainer.