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Dumb on my part / Lucky on theirs ?

Postby joe in pa. » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:48 am

Looking back...I should have called and pushed after the flop.
How would you have played it?
PokerStars Game #7164902629: Tournament #36191968, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (3000/6000) - 2006/11/25 - 02:07:59 (ET)
Table '36191968 10' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: King Snapper (115516 in chips)
Seat 2: SexyAllie (173649 in chips)
Seat 3: Ribar57 (32755 in chips)
Seat 4: Winrs/Edge (95801 in chips)
Seat 6: xartopexteis (146914 in chips)
Seat 7: RollinFish (89522 in chips)
Seat 8: dieselhauge (42574 in chips)
Seat 9: scooby121 (35952 in chips)
King Snapper: posts the ante 300
SexyAllie: posts the ante 300
Ribar57: posts the ante 300
Winrs/Edge: posts the ante 300
xartopexteis: posts the ante 300
RollinFish: posts the ante 300
dieselhauge: posts the ante 300
scooby121: posts the ante 300
Winrs/Edge: posts small blind 3000
xartopexteis: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ribar57 [Qd Qs]
RollinFish: folds
dieselhauge: folds
scooby121: folds
King Snapper: folds
SexyAllie: raises 12000 to 18000
Ribar57: raises 14455 to 32455 and is all-in
Winrs/Edge: folds
xartopexteis: folds
SexyAllie: calls 14455
*** FLOP *** [5s Tc Td]
*** TURN *** [5s Tc Td] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [5s Tc Td Kh] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SexyAllie: shows [Kc 2d] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Ribar57: shows [Qd Qs] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
SexyAllie collected 76310 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 76310 | Rake 0
Board [5s Tc Td Kh Ah]
Seat 1: King Snapper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SexyAllie showed [Kc 2d] and won (76310) with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 3: Ribar57 (button) showed [Qd Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 4: Winrs/Edge (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: xartopexteis (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: RollinFish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dieselhauge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: scooby121 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Postby mattaca » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:47 am

Your M is about 3 (If you've read harrington's books) so very easy push.

Unlucky he hit his K but you made the right move.
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Postby scamlan » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:23 am

Easy push even though the original raiser has the odds to call with any two. Just one of those situations where you have no reraise fold equity and get unlucky.
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Postby joe in pa. » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:41 am

Thanks that answered my next question...."would you have called with the K-3?" I guess I'm just to timid in that type of situation, even given the odds to call with "any 2 cards".
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Postby scamlan » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:52 am

Joe in Pa. wrote:Thanks that answered my next question...."would you have called with the K-3?" I guess I'm just to timid in that type of situation, even given the odds to call with "any 2 cards".


She had a ton of chips and only had to put in 14,455 to win 61,855 getting over 4-1 odds on the call, very, very easy call. (If I did all my math right)
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Postby sfustsh » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:11 pm

Just shove.

Other question about "would you call with K-3"? Villain doesn't raise here with that garbage, but even if they do, they can't fold to the shove.

EDIT: what I mean to say is usually they turn over a read hand.
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Postby mewsiclovr » Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:53 pm

We don't see this hand if he doesn't spike his K.
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Postby randy72560 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:49 pm

We don't see this hand if he doesn't spike his K.


Your right mew. This is a bad beat post. Wrong section for it though.

Post some hands that are not cut and dry and you get a lot more feedback from us.
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Postby LadyWrestler » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:50 pm

Joe in Pa. :)

Welcome to Tight Poker's forum!!! :D
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Postby sfustsh » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:56 pm

LadyWrestler wrote:Joe in Pa. :)

Welcome to Tight Poker's forum!!! :D


LadyWrestler!

Welcome to two months ago! :D
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Postby mewsiclovr » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:12 pm

Holy bump batman! :D
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Postby mirage » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:27 pm

Guess he didn't like the answer he got :wink:
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Postby joe in pa. » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 am

I've had worse welcomes!!! :wink:
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Postby joe in pa. » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:55 am

OK! How about this one?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20000 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 (t69336)
MP2 (t288004)
Hero (t430431)
Button (t502345)
SB (t798908)
BB (t197548)
UTG (t608834)

Preflop: Hero is CO with JImage, AImage.
UTG raises to t55555, 2 folds, Hero calls t55555, 3 folds.

Flop: (t117110) TImage, 8Image, 6Image (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t117110) 7Image (2 players)
UTG bets t120000, Hero raises to t240000, UTG calls t120000.

River: (t597110) 8Image (2 players)
UTG bets t140000, Hero calls t133876 (All-In).

Final Pot: t870986

Results in white below:
UTG has 7s 7h (full house, sevens full of eights).
Hero has Js As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins t870986.
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Postby mewsiclovr » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:36 pm

Bet the flop please. As played, just push the turn since you don't have a lot left behind.
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