New software (calculator for holdem)

[pokerbolide]

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[pokerjazz]

There are a ton of free pieces of software that will allow you to do the same thing. Why on earth would anyone buy this???????

[pokerbolide]

There are a ton of free pieces of software that will allow you to do the same thing. Why on earth would anyone buy this???????

I saw most of them. They really worth nothing, except PokerStove and Poker Calculator (www.pokercalculator.com). And compare speed. With 9 random hands PokerStove is 800 (!!!) times slower than PokerBolide.

[pokerjazz]

I guess I should rephrase, who gives a flying fuck!!! This shit is going to be removed by the mods soon anyway.

[pokerbolide]

I guess I should rephrase, who gives a flying fuck!!! This shit is going to be removed by the mods soon anyway.

Hmmm... I'm newbie here. Is it normal way of talking at this forum? If so, I go away.

Special offer for you, pokerjazz:
if you point me a program, either free or payed that makes the things faster than mine, I'll give you personal registration key for free.

[sfustsh]

11 posts telling 3 posts to get lost.

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

[pokerjazz]

I guess I should rephrase, who gives a flying fuck!!! This shit is going to be removed by the mods soon anyway.

Hmmm... I'm newbie here. Is it normal way of talking at this forum? If so, I go away.

Special offer for you, pokerjazz:
if you point me a program, either free or payed that makes the things faster than mine, I'll give you personal registration key for free.

I tried your software and I have a question, why when I put the same two cards in such as 66 vs 66 (using all four suits) and the other cards random , does one player get a higher chance to win then another. Am I missing some thing?

[pokerjazz]

11 posts telling 3 posts to get lost.

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

Its clearly a few milliseconds faster!!!

[pokerbolide]

I tried your software and I have a question, why when I put the same two cards in such as 66 vs 66 (using all four suits) and the other cards random , does one player get a higher chance to win then another. Am I missing some thing?

PokerBolide uses Monte-Carlo method only in current version. I plan to make exact evaluation for such cases soon. BTW, in PokerStove you get the same if choose "Monte-Carlo" option.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

3,281,984 games 8.792 secs 373,292 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 49.9957 % 02.17% 47.83% { 6h6s }
Hand 2: 50.0043 % 02.18% 47.83% { 6c6d }


PokerBolide v.1.0.
Monte-Carlo simulations results:
3 000 000 games; 1.067 seconds;
2 811 832 games/sec
Board: [ xx xx xx xx xx ]
Equity EV
Hand 1 [ 6h 6s ] 49.994% -0.0%
Hand 2 [ 6c 6d ] 50.006% +0.0%

[mewsiclovr]

Unless the calculator is in real-time I'm not sure why speed matters so much. I don't mind waiting 8 seconds to get a result since usually I only use it when I want to see how bad of a beat I just took.

[pokerbolide]

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

When there is 'no problem with the speed', usually there is problem with accuracy.

[pokerjazz]

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

When there is 'no problem with the speed', usually there is problem with accuracy.

That is exactly what I said earlier, its a few ms faster but it isn't as accurate as the free version. Worth the price?

[pokerbolide]

That is exactly what I said earlier, its a few ms faster but it isn't as accurate as the free version. Worth the price?

Nope. Both PokerBolide and PokerStove use the same Monte-Carlo method and hence have the same accuracy provided even number of games in a simulation. But PokerBolide makes such simulations several times faster. The more random hands you specify, the worse PokerStove operate.

[sfustsh]

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

When there is 'no problem with the speed', usually there is problem with accuracy.

Nope. Both PokerBolide and PokerStove use the same Monte-Carlo method and hence have the same accuracy provided even number of games in a simulation. But PokerBolide makes such simulations several times faster. The more random hands you specify, the worse PokerStove operate.

So both your program and PS have the same accuracy since they employ the same methods but yours is faster? You've somehow overcome the contradiction you pointed out a minute ago, right?

That's why yours is better, right?

[pokerjazz]

Anyway, I never had a problem with the 'speed' of any of the other programs.

When there is 'no problem with the speed', usually there is problem with accuracy.

Nope. Both PokerBolide and PokerStove use the same Monte-Carlo method and hence have the same accuracy provided even number of games in a simulation. But PokerBolide makes such simulations several times faster. The more random hands you specify, the worse PokerStove operate.

So both your program and PS have the same accuracy since they employ the same methods but yours is faster? You've somehow overcome the contradiction you pointed out a minute ago, right?

That's why yours is better, right?

No you see you're paying for what you can get for free now.

I actually can't wait till this software is posted on 2 plus 2.