Good push or fish move?

[johnny]

Slick is tight passive and Skid is very loose aggressive.
Reraise pre-flop?

STAGE #467522650: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2006-10-12 21:15:06 (ET)
Table: MORENO VALLEY (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - KOPPERHEAD ($39.25 in chips)
Seat 4 - KEGS357 ($30.75 in chips)
Seat 5 - SLICK710 ($26.85 in chips)
Seat 7 - SKIDREAMS ($54.30 in chips)
Seat 8 - 77GRINDER ($25 in chips)
Seat 9 - QUAGMIRE29 ($9.10 in chips)
Seat 1 - THE_KATT ($94.55 in chips)
Seat 2 - TEMPESTS ($56.45 in chips)
KEGS357 - Posts small blind $0.25
SLICK710 - Posts big blind $0.50
77GRINDER - sitout (wait for BB)
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to KEGS357 [9c 9h]
SKIDREAMS - Raises $2 to $2
QUAGMIRE29 - Folds
THE_KATT - Folds
TEMPESTS - Folds
KOPPERHEAD - Folds
KEGS357 - Calls $1.75
SLICK710 - Calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Kc Ks Ad]
KEGS357 - Checks
SLICK710 - Checks
SKIDREAMS - Checks
*** TURN *** [Kc Ks Ad] [9s]
KEGS357 - Bets $2.50
SLICK710 - Calls $2.50
SKIDREAMS - Raises $13.50 to $13.50
KEGS357 - All-In(Raise) $26.25 to $28.75
SLICK710 - All-In $22.35
SKIDREAMS - Calls $15.25
*** RIVER *** [Kc Ks Ad 9s] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KEGS357 - Shows [9c 9h] (Full house, nines full of kings)
SLICK710 - Shows [Kd Jh] (Full house, kings full of jacks)
SKIDREAMS - Shows [Qh Kh] (Three of a kind, kings)
KEGS357 Collects $7.54 from side pot-1
SLICK710 Collects $77.81 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($88.35:$80.55,$7.80) | Rake ($3:$2.74,$0.26)
Board [Kc Ks Ad 9s Js]
Seat 1: THE_KATT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: TEMPESTS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: KOPPERHEAD (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: KEGS357 (small blind) won Total ($7.54) All-In HI:($7.54) with Full house, nines full of kings [9c 9h - B:9s,P:9h,P:9c,B:Ks,B:Kc]
Seat 5: SLICK710 (big blind) won Total ($77.81) All-In HI:($77.81) with Full house, kings full of jacks [Kd Jh - B:Ks,P:Kd,B:Kc,B:Js,P:Jh]
Seat 7: SKIDREAMS HI:lost with Three of a kind, kings [Qh Kh - B:Ks,P:Kh,B:Kc,B:Ad,P:Qh]
Seat 9: QUAGMIRE29 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

[neverthink]

Good push. I reraise preflop one opponent with nines, usually in position to make postflop easier. I play it the same way you do in this spot.

[bigdil511]

Nothing wrong at all. Re-raise from the SB with 99? No I think not, on the button yes.

[johnny]

Thank you. Got the money on the table with the best hand at the time. I was pretty confident about the play but had a nagging unsureness. At least no one told me I made them throw up in their mouths a little with this one.

[johnny]

This one probably wasn't so well advised. Both opponents were very loose (35Vp and 47VP) and losing chips quickly. PFR was too small but I had folded 52 of the last 55 hands too. I put the last guy on a flush draw. Since I'm playing NL I didn't even make any progress towards releasing the bonus tonight. Bah.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($24.90)
SB ($39.80)
BB ($50)
UTG ($24)
Hero ($54.35)
MP2 ($7.75)
CO ($51)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($8.50) 5, Q, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, CO folds, Button calls $5, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($23.50) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, Button folds, SB raises to $32.8, Hero calls $12.80.

River: ($89.10) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: $89.10

Results in white below:
SB has Kd Qd (full house, fives full of queens).
Hero has Js Jh (full house, fives full of jacks).
Outcome: SB wins $89.10.

[nlman]

Yep, good push. Too bad he rivered you

[sfustsh]

Second one isn't so advisable. They call with queens here, sure. I shut down on the turn, maybe; maybe I'm too weak tight here.

For such loose players, I generally think your image is lost on them.

[neverthink]

Second hand, turn bet is spew, you bet the flop for info, got called should shut down. Definitely not weak tight to check/fold turn, and their range could easily mean you are behind trip fives here as well. Could check/call on flop, as if one does call your c-bet, you have no idea if he floated you with a worse hand, or the flush draw, or with a Queen and checking to him on 4th may entice him to bet you off the winner. Try your best to get to showdown cheaply, if you can't, then you are probably beaten. Bet flop, check/fold turn is pretty standard here with your hand.

[johnny]

Very good insight, thank you.

Looking back with a clearer head this morning, it's definitely not a play I would have made except for losing just about every hand for 3 days and then not getting any cards last night. I let myself tilt a little.

[johnny]

Think he would have laid down to a pot sized bet on the turn? I don't think he would have. Might not be the best post flop play, but I'm not chasing tonight.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($4.75)
Button ($29.40)
SB ($23.70)
BB ($8.70)
UTG =#A500AF(Fishy McPoundmyass)/ ($18.85)
UTG+1 ($22.45)
Hero ($22.30)
MP2 ($26.35)
MP3 ($8.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A.
UTG =#A500AF(Fishy McPoundmyass)/ calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 5 folds, BB calls $0.75, UTG =#A500AF(Fishy McPoundmyass)/ calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.20) 8, 6, 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Fishy McPoundmyass checks, Hero bets $3, BB folds, Fishy McPoundmyass calls $3.

Turn: ($9.20) J (2 players)
Fishy McPoundmyass checks, Hero checks.

River: ($9.20) 7 (2 players)
Fishy McPoundmyass checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $9.20

oops, it doesn't say... he had 56 offsuit for the straight.

[neverthink]

Check the flop, bet the turn. You can bet a river brick if you think he is weak or on a draw that doesn't get there. As played, fair enough, you took a stab and shutdown, I'd have done the same. I don't think he would have folded to a turn Jack, Ace or King maybe.

Is that you in the avatar? And is that what I think, a fan propelled scooter?

[johnny]

Point taken. If i checked the flop he probably wouldn't have bet. I noticed after this hand he was continually trying to be uber-tricky. After I showed weakness by checking I don't think he would have bet because, omg he had da nutz middle pair with a 5 kicker, best to sucker me in! I wanted to test these guys.

No, that's not me. Just a silly picture I came across in my wanderings the other night. I'm rather happy lately after having a legal struggle end and finding out we can play poker for almost another year so it fits my mood. I'm sure we'll be posting some pictures after a few of us meet up in Niagara next weekend though.