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by easy_as_pie » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:51 pm
posted by accident so decided to play an orbit. no reads and stats are irrelevant cause sample is tiny.
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: JohnnyD911 ( $81.70 )
Seat 4: yessir26 ( $111.96 )
Seat 5: bradlyB ( $40.45 )
Seat 8: d2542 ( $103.19 )
Seat 10: dlevin86 ( $76.55 )
Seat 6: RussianGirls ( $122 )
Seat 1: oleg759 ( $23.29 )
Seat 3: Chille02 ( $74.50 )
Seat 9: naf70 ( $99 )
JohnnyD911 posts small blind [$0.50].
Chille02 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RussianGirls [ 5d 5s ]
>You have options at Table 107159 Table!.
yessir26 calls [$1].
bradlyB folds.
RussianGirls calls [$1].
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
d2542 calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
naf70 folds.
dlevin86 folds.
oleg759 folds.
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Monster #1289612 Table!.
JohnnyD911 calls [$0.50].
Chille02 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 5c, 2c ]
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
JohnnyD911 checks.
Chille02 bets [$3].
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
yessir26 raises [$7].
RussianGirls raises [$25]
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
d2542 folds.
JohnnyD911 folds.
>You have options at Table 107159 Table!.
Chille02 folds.
yessir26 is all-In.
do you like different size raise or maybe even cc and if so why?
stack off or fold to the push?
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Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: JohnnyD911 ( $81.70 )
Seat 4: yessir26 ( $111.96 )
Seat 5: bradlyB ( $40.45 )
Seat 8: d2542 ( $103.19 )
Seat 10: dlevin86 ( $76.55 )
Seat 6: RussianGirls ( $122 )
Seat 1: oleg759 ( $23.29 )
Seat 3: Chille02 ( $74.50 )
Seat 9: naf70 ( $99 )
JohnnyD911 posts small blind [$0.50].
Chille02 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RussianGirls [ 5d 5s ]
>You have options at Table 107159 Table!.
yessir26 calls [$1].
bradlyB folds.
RussianGirls calls [$1].
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
d2542 calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
naf70 folds.
dlevin86 folds.
oleg759 folds.
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Monster #1289612 Table!.
JohnnyD911 calls [$0.50].
Chille02 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 5c, 2c ]
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
JohnnyD911 checks.
Chille02 bets [$3].
>You have options at Monster #1293376 (No DP) Table!.
yessir26 raises [$7].
RussianGirls raises [$25]
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
d2542 folds.
JohnnyD911 folds.
>You have options at Table 107159 Table!.
Chille02 folds.
yessir26 is all-In.
do you like different size raise or maybe even cc and if so why?
stack off or fold to the push?
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by goofyballer » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:28 pm
Yuck...you're getting about 1.75:1 when you have 1.9:1 odds to boat up, so I don't think calling can be too bad.
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by easy_as_pie » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:28 am
i was trying to open up many tables and autposted on this one by accident and decided to stay for an orbit.......
full ring is not that bad....many nits and people overplay their stuff all the time.
so what about the flop raise? you do anything differently? goofy, you think i am beat? you put him on a flush?
full ring is not that bad....many nits and people overplay their stuff all the time.
so what about the flop raise? you do anything differently? goofy, you think i am beat? you put him on a flush?
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by mervhage » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:56 am
I think he has the flush here. The new "slowplaying" is fastplaying.
The absolute worst hand he could have here is a set of dueces. Since we don't have much info on the villain, it's rather tough to say.
Based on the odds by Goofy (if he indeed has the flush), then I'm calling here.
The absolute worst hand he could have here is a set of dueces. Since we don't have much info on the villain, it's rather tough to say.
Based on the odds by Goofy (if he indeed has the flush), then I'm calling here.
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by kedoran » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:14 am
Easiest call ever, every post so far been on how good hand he must have and you cant go broke here etc. Imo thats incredible bad thinking, you have a set, theres no way you can consider folding here without a read. People push waaaay more hands here then a flopped flush and a set of dueces. If you think they fold overpairs and a pair+draw because he raise "big" is wrong. If he has you outflopped then whatever, but if you consider folding spots like these without read your missing out.
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by easy_as_pie » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:59 pm
hmm....you are THAT sure kedoran.
lets take things into perspective. this is a limped pot at a full ring table. you really think my hand is ever good here given the action?
do you play full ring?
lets take things into perspective. this is a limped pot at a full ring table. you really think my hand is ever good here given the action?
do you play full ring?
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by goofyballer » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:56 pm
I think FR makes a big difference, I go broke here much more easily at a 6m table.
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by neverthink » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:16 pm
You want this all in on the flop every time. Only 3 hands are ahead of you right now, 2 of which you aren't in terrible shape against, but 66 does have you well stuffed. Instacall.
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by mervhage » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:09 am
neverthink wrote:You want this all in on the flop every time. Only 3 hands are ahead of you right now, 2 of which you aren't in terrible shape against, but 66 does have you well stuffed. Instacall.
The "scary" thing is that it's quite a few more than 3 hands that are beating our Hero, considering the endless combinations that make a flush, but I realize the point you're trying to make.
However, there should be a lot of consideration based on FR. 6 max significantly lessens the chance that you're up against a flopped flush simply due to the lower number of hands you're up against.
Also, I really really really think there should be some thought into my above comment regarding the "new slowplaying" (fastplaying hands like these).
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by kedoran » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:09 pm
easy_as_pie wrote:hmm....you are THAT sure kedoran.
lets take things into perspective. this is a limped pot at a full ring table. you really think my hand is ever good here given the action?
do you play full ring?
I dont play fr but you cant consider folding a set without a read against anyone. Likelyness (I hope thats a word) he flopped something bigger is not huge and people will go nuts with alot of hands that you beat. Wouldnt be suprised if he did this with like AcQ or just 88. Sure you get outflopped sometimes, but your only a big dog against set of 6's but since people are insane in the brain means you cant put them on a tight enough range to fold (specially since you have money in allready).
Do you think he could limp JcJ UTG and not push with it on this flop?
Im sure you lost this hand since your posting it, but people push way more junk then the few hands your behind.
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by bram » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:08 pm
given that people often slow play big pairs in full ring low limit NL games, this could just as easily be AA-QQ with a club, I'm calling villians push without too much thinking, but I'm a bit of a calling station 
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by neverthink » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:27 pm
mervhage wrote:neverthink wrote:You want this all in on the flop every time. Only 3 hands are ahead of you right now, 2 of which you aren't in terrible shape against, but 66 does have you well stuffed. Instacall.
The "scary" thing is that it's quite a few more than 3 hands that are beating our Hero, considering the endless combinations that make a flush, but I realize the point you're trying to make.
However, there should be a lot of consideration based on FR. 6 max significantly lessens the chance that you're up against a flopped flush simply due to the lower number of hands you're up against.
Also, I really really really think there should be some thought into my above comment regarding the "new slowplaying" (fastplaying hands like these).
Odds of somebody having flopped a flush are very high. Being concerned is fair enough, folding is weak tight. If one player goes all in before me, I consider it, and probably call. If two go in, I'm in with'em. I absolutely want it in on the flop as it's harder to call a big bet on the turn, plus you may not get the action from the single big diamond, spade etc if you wait for the turn. Easiest call/shove ever, surprised there is disagreement on this. Even more surprised it comes from Mervhage de Tilt
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by mervhage » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:59 pm
ALL IN!!!
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by neverthink » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:12 pm
mervhage wrote::oops: , Neverthink, I didn't mean to give the impression that I would fold. Um, I'm getting all in the flop for sure. I did however, want to entertain the thought of the other person actually having flopped a flush.
ALL IN!!!
That's what I thought, just had to check.
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