more bubble hands

[bobcorn]

I've recently discovered that i suck at playing on the bubble so i'll be posting mostly bubble hands for a while. Here are a couple.

PokerStars Game #3331753943: Tournament #16500313, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/12/14 - 14:01:24 (ET)
Table '16500313 1' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 4: DeadManMac (1795 in chips)
Seat 5: ncguy80 (6990 in chips)
Seat 7: JUAN KAMANEY (1410 in chips)
Seat 9: bobcorn (3305 in chips)
DeadManMac: posts the ante 25
ncguy80: posts the ante 25
JUAN KAMANEY: posts the ante 25
bobcorn: posts the ante 25
DeadManMac: posts small blind 100
ncguy80: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobcorn [Jh Jd]
JUAN KAMANEY: folds
bobcorn: raises 400 to 600
DeadManMac: folds
ncguy80: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [8d Ah 7d]
ncguy80: checks
bobcorn: bets 700
ncguy80: calls 700
*** TURN *** [8d Ah 7d] [Tc]
ncguy80: checks
bobcorn: checks
*** RIVER *** [8d Ah 7d Tc] [Kh]
ncguy80: bets 1000
bobcorn: folds
ncguy80 collected 2800 from pot
ncguy80: doesn't show hand

ncguy80 had been loose when calling raises preflop and had check-raised a lot. Obviously i have to fold on the river but should i have pushed the turn or is a check good?

PokerStars Game #3331761912: Tournament #16500313, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/12/14 - 14:02:42 (ET)
Table '16500313 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 4: DeadManMac (1645 in chips)
Seat 5: ncguy80 (8340 in chips)
Seat 7: JUAN KAMANEY (1560 in chips)
Seat 9: bobcorn (1955 in chips)
DeadManMac: posts the ante 25
ncguy80: posts the ante 25
JUAN KAMANEY: posts the ante 25
bobcorn: posts the ante 25
JUAN KAMANEY: posts small blind 100
bobcorn: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobcorn [Kc 5d]
DeadManMac: folds
ncguy80: folds
JUAN KAMANEY: calls 100
bobcorn: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 9c Td]
JUAN KAMANEY: checks
bobcorn: checks
*** TURN *** [4d 9c Td] [As]
JUAN KAMANEY: checks
bobcorn: bets 300
JUAN KAMANEY: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [4d 9c Td As] [8d]
JUAN KAMANEY: checks
bobcorn: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JUAN KAMANEY: shows [Th Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
bobcorn: mucks hand

JUAN had been very tight early but had pushed on my big blind almost every time so he seemed to know what he was doing. I cant really put him on an ace or a 10 because he wouldve pushed preflop w/ an ace and bet the flop w/ a 10. Is betting on the turn here just wasting chips? I wouldnt do this against a loose player but he had seemed really solid up to this point and i thought there was a good chance he would fold.

[darinvg]

Both look good.
Hand 1: Nice c bet but since he called you have to slow down.

Hand 2: It's a good stab. You can't expect him to have a set of T.

[fishdawg65]

overall it was similar to what i'd do...
hand1: I'd raise more. I want them to fold so i can steal the blinds. jj is a very good hand this late but it can easily be beaten by an ace or a king.

hand2: I would have considered betting preflop and/or on the flop. He would have most likely called but then you know he's not just trying to limp and catch something.... Could work to your advantage later on.