AA, stuffed up preflop, layed it down

[bram]

made a weak raise preflop which did me over for the rest of the hand, kinda ashamed to post this hand, I think I made the right laydown, on the flop I don't think anyone reraises a reraise without something good perhaps A10, but with that horrible turn card I don't think I could beat anything, I would say villian had small pocket pair, hence the limp/call preflop, then hit a set.

Past my butchering of preflop what do you think of the rest of the hand?

***** Hand History for Game 422468780 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, August 20, 00:26:28 ET 2006
Table Wattsville (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: gionnibgood ( $207.6 )
Seat 3: dro24 ( $40 )
Seat 5: therightcard ( $76.53 )
Seat 6: hero ( $309.03 )
Seat 8: aouiz000 ( $240.32 )
Seat 10: PalladinII ( $92 )
mrmgoo posts small blind [$1].
dro24 posts big blind [$2].
aouiz000 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Ac As ]
PalladinII folds.
gionnibgood calls [$2].
dro24 checks.
therightcard folds.
hero raises [$5].
aouiz000 calls [$4].
gionnibgood calls [$4].
dro24 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 4d, 6c ]
hero bets [$8].
aouiz000 calls [$8].
gionnibgood raises [$16].
hero raises [$25].
aouiz000 folds.
gionnibgood raises [$34].
hero calls [$17].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
hero checks.
gionnibgood bets [$52].
hero folds.gionnibgood does not show cards.
gionnibgood wins $177

[scottie_g]

What's with all the min-raising uglyness on the flop? I don't get it. After his min-raise, what are you trying to accomplish by min-raising him back? There aren't any good draws on the flop, so he is probably not min-raising with a FD . I have seen villains minraise with top pair however. He may also have something like JJ, QQ, KK played badly.

If you suspect a set, I like a calling his min-raise on the flop and seeing a turn. Pushing flop is a spew, and folding is still out of the question IMO. If scare cards come off on the turn or river, you may be able to take control of the hand, and get to see a showdown. You may even see Top pair or a lower overpair at showdown.

This is one of those way ahead/way behind situations where raising seems like a spew but folding is terrible. Think pot control on the turn...

[easy_as_pie]

as played, i fold and then punch myself and go cry somewhere in the corner.

whats up with the preflop play and the flop min raising? you are also OOP

[ugignadl]

Errrr don't go crazy on the flop and does anyone like to lead the turn?

[kedoran]

Ill say move down if your not comfortable raising more.

[bram]

Ill say move down if your not comfortable raising more.

ken I have played Nl600 for a while so that isn't the problem,

anyways I made the flop raise so someone with A10 would stay in the hand and so I wasn't too commited to call a push. probably should have raised it to 45 or something though.

Leading the turn for 30ish would have been alright, but I don't think any hand that min raised twice on the flop is worse than the 1 pair I hold.

As for the weak raise preflop, I just started playing at titan again and am still getting used to 4 tabling on there, they give you hardly any time to act and I had another hand going on at another table, hence why I typed 5 instead of 10

In this hand I made a mistake but didn't compound it by spewing all my chips, so I'm not that disappointed with my play (after my preflop mistake)

[neverthink]

Errrr don't go crazy on the flop and does anyone like to lead the turn?

I know you like to deal with the minraise this way and it works mostly it seems, but I don't think leading the turn is any good here. Villain either has the third ten, in which case he's betting into it, or he will be afraid that Bram has spiked trips, and will fold the hands like KK-JJ he wants calling him, so I don't see it achieves anything in this case.