Turn play

[fishdawg65]

VPIP: 50 No good reads

***** Hand History for Game 4599684441 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 26, 20:22:09 ET 2006
Table Table 108064 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Peruvenator ( $21.43 )
Seat 5: Neutric ( $23.30 )
Seat 6: Stromile2001 ( $23.75 )
Seat 2: fishdawg65 ( $25 )
Seat 3: DAHOOK111 ( $9 )
Seat 4: RyanB6969 ( $7.48 )
DAHOOK111 posts small blind [$0.10].
RyanB6969 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fishdawg65 [ Kh Ks ]
Neutric folds.
Stromile2001 calls [$0.25].
Peruvenator folds.
fishdawg65 raises [$1.25].
DAHOOK111 folds.
RyanB6969 folds.
Stromile2001 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Ad, 4s ]
Stromile2001 checks.
fishdawg65 bets [$2].
Stromile2001 calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
Stromile2001 bets [$3].
Call here thinking he may have a 4 or an ace?
fishdawg65 calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
Stromile2001 checks.
fishdawg65 checks.
Stromile2001 shows [ 9s, Qd ] three of a kind, fours.
fishdawg65 shows [ Kh, Ks ] a full house, Fours full of kings.
fishdawg65 wins $12.25 from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of kings.

[kedoran]

I just fold turn. Dont want to call a river bet, if hes bluffing he could bet again if you only call.

[mewsiclovr]

This is tough...with VP$IP=50 villain could have a huge range here, including any ace. I hate folding the turn because of his range but calling is equally bad since it leaves you open for a bluff on the river - which only leaves a raise but if villain is at all intelligent he may come over the top sensing weakness. I have no idea what I'd do here. I'd probably go for the raise but would really hate doing it, simply because I think it's the cheapest way I could tell whether or not I was beat.

Luckily it seems villain is pretty stupid... flat calling the pf raise with Q9 off.

[goofyballer]

His bet isn't that big relative to the pot, I think I call and re-evaluate river.

[easy_as_pie]

first reaction is to fold turn but do you really think he would bet into you with the A or do the usual check call routin

with VPIP at 50 i call turn

the better question is do you call an instant/timed all the way down river shove?

[cavman]

the better question is do you call an instant/timed all the way down river shove?

no

[scottie_g]

I think I call down in that situation. His line just makes no sense. He could be calling with a weak ace or a flush draw on the flop, sure. But his lead on the turn makes little sense. I don't see him betting of a kind here, and I don't see him betting his full house either.

Call and see the river. If he bets a substantial amount on the river, I think you can safely fold.

[ugignadl]

His bet is rather small, which could mean different things based on what kind of player he is. I really don't like this situation at all, and unless you know what that kind of a bet means from that player I'm folding.