Nut flush... random hand

[scottie_g]

Stats on Villian are 53/0/1. Thats right... 0 PFR over 65 hands.

Any thoughts on this hand?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) TightPoker converter

UTG ($44.45)
MP ($178.75)
Hero ($98.82)
Button ($41.48)
SB ($105.25)
BB ($86.86)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) , , (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $8.51, BB calls $8.51, UTG folds.

Turn: ($29.52) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($29.52) (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero raises to $71.8, BB calls $49.35 (All-In), Hero calls $2.55.

Final Pot: $178.22

[fishdawg65]

Can you explain the turn? Why not bet again? Or do you not want to bet because he's called you down so far AND you haven't improved?

These are the types of hands that seem to screw me over the most so input about why you played this would way would help my game immensily(sp?).

[scottie_g]

Can you explain the turn? Why not bet again? Or do you not want to bet because he's called you down so far AND you haven't improved?

These are the types of hands that seem to screw me over the most so input about why you played this would way would help my game immensily(sp?).

Flop: I'm just c-betting here.
Turn: My thinking was that the club helped him. I checked the turn because my c-bet failed on the flop, and all I have now is the nut flush draw. There's also a good chance is that he has a made flush..

[fishdawg65]

Can you explain the turn? Why not bet again? Or do you not want to bet because he's called you down so far AND you haven't improved?

These are the types of hands that seem to screw me over the most so input about why you played this would way would help my game immensily(sp?).

Flop: I'm just c-betting here.
Turn: My thinking was that the club helped him. I decide to check to pretend I'm scared of the club. I guess I'm representing AK here. I was hoping he made a lower flush, and would pay me off on the river if it was another club.

I can see this. I like the way you thought of it. Good hand.

[scottie_g]

I can see this. I like the way you thought of it. Good hand.

Really? Anyone else have any thoughts? BTW, I lost this hand.

[goofyballer]

Really? Anyone else have any thoughts? BTW, I lost this hand.

I did have a bad feeling about it, but didn't really see any way to play it differently. Possibly flat-call the river; actually, come to think of it, I really hate a river raise just because only a total moron is paying you off here with anything you beat. Is he gonna call a push with the Qc? I think you have the best hand most of the time, but I don't think worse hands call if you raise.

[kedoran]

These callstation types that suddenly bet usualy have nutty hand, but you have nut flush so I push it in aswell and probably see lower flush enough times to make it profitable.

[scottie_g]

These callstation types that suddenly bet usualy have nutty hand, but you have nut flush so I push it in aswell and probably see lower flush enough times to make it profitable.

Villian flipped over for Kings full of fives.

[mewsiclovr]

Oh man thats tough. As soon as he bet the river I thought he might have KK, he's so passive he probably wouldn't bet without the nuts (well, second nuts).

[easy_as_pie]

the way the hand was played out you have to bet the river for value BUT how often are you ahead of his range when he raises the river.
Although this is 100NL do you think he would push Q high flush like that? I think he is bluffing here about 0% and pushing a worse hand then yours also very rarely. I can imagine that you insta-called right?

Its tough because you are thinking that you have the A high flush. Its a very good hand, doesn't happen very often and good hands win pots so the majority of the players in this spot are in auto-mode. You are thinking in terms of which x% of the time you get the A high flush vs a typical donk and which x% of the time it wins pots, which is definetly a +%, but you are not thinking which x% of the time you are ahead here. By you i mean any player.

Another thing is to be careful of people limping UTG in SH and especially in FR games. The way this hand played out, you have to include a boat in his range after the turn action.

[aj]

Honestly, I think this is just one of those hands that you have to go broke on. The cold call on the turn was a big problem for you and you handled it right by checking the turn. He, however, handled it better. Your "worst nightmare" card came on the river. Just chalk it up to destiny.

By the way, I don't think his stats are a clue to anything here. Since he never raises PF, he could have just as easily had AK.

I'm sure you fold if he bets the turn, so give him credit for allowing you to catch the perfect (for him) card on the river.

[goofyballer]

By the way, I don't think his stats are a clue to anything here. Since he never raises PF, he could have just as easily had AK.

Not judging by his river action. If he does have AK then he folds to another cent on the river.

[aj]

By the way, I don't think his stats are a clue to anything here. Since he never raises PF, he could have just as easily had AK.

Not judging by his river action. If he does have AK then he folds to another cent on the river.

Right you are - with the 4 clubs. My point was that the odd stats didn't tell us anything about his starting hand (prior to the river of course).

[easy_as_pie]

ok, it seems like its an easy call for everybody. Does anybody else think this is a fold after he pushes on the river? What hands does he do taht with that you beat??????

[goofyballer]

For another $2.55 in a huge pot, I fold 0% of the time here. wtf are you talking about?