Should I have put him on a set?

[jrf2k]

PokerStars Game #5109557878: Tournament #25680695, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/05/31 - 14:22:41 (ET)
Table '25680695 2' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Mike_1304 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: DEVILL22 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: zeugeyeboahs (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: JRF2k (1690 in chips)
Seat 5: RitchRian (1160 in chips)
Seat 7: Draco2113 (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: tulan (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: cascadia (1500 in chips)
JRF2k: posts small blind 10
RitchRian: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JRF2k [Kh Kd]
Draco2113: folds
tulan: folds
cascadia: folds
Mike_1304: calls 20
DEVILL22: raises 80 to 100
zeugeyeboahs: folds
JRF2k: raises 200 to 300
RitchRian: folds
Mike_1304: folds
DEVILL22: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [5s Js Qh]
JRF2k: bets 320
DEVILL22: raises 870 to 1190 and is all-in
JRF2k: calls 870
*** TURN *** [5s Js Qh] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [5s Js Qh Ts] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IN WHITE BELOW
JRF2k: shows [Kh Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
DEVILL22: shows [5h 5d] (a full house, Fives full of Jacks)
DEVILL22 collected 3020 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
[color=white]Total pot 3020 | Rake 0
Board [5s Js Qh Ts Jh]
Seat 1: Mike_1304 folded before Flop
Seat 2: DEVILL22 showed [5h 5d] and won (3020) with a full house, Fives full of Jacks
Seat 3: zeugeyeboahs (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JRF2k (small blind) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 5: RitchRian (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Draco2113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tulan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: cascadia folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[bobcorn]

Nope. You played it perfectly.

(Edit: At this level, open-shoving the flop is probably a better play.)

[fishdawg65]

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[jrf2k]

Thanks for the replies.


I tried to use the hand converter at

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

but all it did was output nothing. I selected Tightpoker and still nothing.

[poormanbilly]

Thanks for the replies.


I tried to use the hand converter at

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

but all it did was output nothing. I selected Tightpoker and still nothing.

Don't feel bad. I actually got around to looking at the converter source the other day and it's 200,000 lines of shit perl. I now know why it doesn't work.

Edit: I'm talking about the bison converter. Not sure if this neilde is based on that or not.

[mewsiclovr]

Nope. You played it perfectly.

(Edit: At this level, open-shoving the flop is probably a better play.)

I disagree. It's only the first level, there's not reason to open shove when we could just as easily make a value bet. Sucks to be up against a set but without a read that villain is uber tight I think you're going broke here; he could easily have TPTK or a smaller PP that didn't connect. It sure didn't look like a set to me.

*Edit: Forgot I was in the MTT section. You may be right about shoving. But, I still think it was played fine.

[bobcorn]

Nope. You played it perfectly.

(Edit: At this level, open-shoving the flop is probably a better play.)

I disagree. It's only the first level, there's not reason to open shove when we could just as easily make a value bet. Sucks to be up against a set but without a read that villain is uber tight I think you're going broke here; he could easily have TPTK or a smaller PP that didn't connect. It sure didn't look like a set to me.

*Edit: Forgot I was in the MTT section. You may be right about shoving. But, I still think it was played fine.

I'm sort of retracting my original statement - it wasn't played perfectly. He gave his opponents perfect odds on a flush draw or open-ender given that he is moving in on any turn card. Therefore a bigger flop bet is required and since a bigger bet is almost 1/2 his stack he might as well just open-shove. The same hands will give you action.

[mewsiclovr]

Oh, didn't see the FD. I've been spoiled by the tightpoker converter. It's also easier to see the pot size that way. Yup, any flush draw or open ender is calling here, so just open shove.