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[terminal]

Omaha Hi $0.25-$0.50 PL (real money), hand #1,539,569,437
Table Hiroshima, 2 Dec 2005 1:52 AM ET

Seat 1: Marcon777
Seat 2: botolotto
Seat 3: nilocg0
Seat 4: horopoker
Seat 5: Terminal_ [ JS,7C,10C,8S ]
Seat 6: MAKIERA
Seat 7: d mayor
Seat 8: Phenix109
Seat 9: LHPopper18
Seat 10: Icculus420
ANTES/BLINDS
Phenix109 posts blind ($0.25), LHPopper18 posts blind ($0.25), Marcon777 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
Icculus420 folds, Marcon777 checks, botolotto calls $0.25, nilocg0 calls $0.25, horopoker calls $0.25, Terminal_ calls $0.25, MAKIERA folds, d mayor folds, Phenix109 checks, LHPopper18 checks.

FLOP [board cards 9D,8H,QS ]
Phenix109 checks, LHPopper18 checks, Marcon777 checks, botolotto checks, nilocg0 checks, horopoker bets $1.75, Terminal_ calls $1.75, Phenix109 folds, LHPopper18 folds, Marcon777 folds, botolotto calls $1.75, nilocg0 folds.

TURN [board cards 9D,8H,QS,6C ]
botolotto checks, horopoker checks, Terminal_ bets $4, botolotto folds, horopoker calls $4.

RIVER [board cards 9D,8H,QS,6C,9H ]
horopoker checks,
Terminal ???

Terminal_ checks.

SHOWDOWN
horopoker shows [ QH,2C,9C,KH ]
Terminal_ mucks cards
horopoker wins $14.50.

SUMMARY
Dealer: d mayor
Pot: $15 | Rake: $0.50
Marcon777 loses $0.25
botolotto loses $2
nilocg0 loses $0.25
horopoker bets $6, collects $14.50, net $8.50
Terminal_ loses $6
MAKIERA loses $0
d mayor loses $0
Phenix109 loses $0.25
LHPopper18 loses $0.25
Icculus420 loses $0

I started to bet but I had a feelling that 9 gave him a full house.

[kbar13]

Only thing I do differently is raise the flop, otherwise I play it the same way.

[mervhage]

Before I look at the results or kbar's reply.

Mistake #1:
You flopped the nuts. Since there's no flush draw out there, you need to raise pot sized.

On the turn, you need to make a pot sized bet as well.

The reason for these two moves is that you could possibly be making it way too cheap for a set fill up.

On the river, check it down, this is a bad card.

[edit]: Now that I've seen the results, smart check on the river. His mistake is not betting the river, in hopes of a check raise. This is a poor move.

[uncledave]

Interesting hand and comments.
I have to say my first thought was "why did you play that hand?"

But I'm a total novice at this game, so maybe that would have been the wrong play I guess I'm maybe too tight at this stage in my Omaha learning business - I tend just to try to stick to the very best starting hands.

DS

[ajdo]

you need to raise the pot on the flop and bet the pot on the turn. the river check is correct, but you need to force those drawing against you into poor odds by making pot sized bets.

[mervhage]

I tend just to try to stick to the very best starting hands.

Dave, this is a dream hand! A hand like 78TJ, if it hits the flop, is going to hit so hard and certainly give you wrap straight draws and such...

[uncledave]

So Merv... and anyone else....
Would you suggest playing the 4/5 straight cards? eg, 7,8,10,J or 6,7,8,10 or 9,J,Q,K

I always thought these hands could lead to problems. Expensive draws, or over-straights etc. I don't know. I see what you are saying about getting all kinds of straight possibilities and so on, but I would have to say I would disregard this most of the time. I could be convinced otherwise - can you elaborate on this a bit?

Thanks.

DS

[ajdo]

4 to a str8 with 1 gap is an excellent hand. however a hand like 2356 is garbage. you make to many 2nd best hands. While a hand like 89TJ will make more nut hands, etc.

[terminal]

I have found hands with many straight possibiities like this one are real money makers. They can also be big money losers. You want them to chase a flush or try to fill a set. It would have been much better if I had position. Merv was right in his assement, I have since learned you can't get cute with the nuts in this game. It's best just to blast away pot size bets and pray they don't hit.