Niagara Falls March 2007 - Day One (Looooong)
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Niagara Falls March 2007 - Day One (Looooong)
by snickers99 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:38 am
It's off to Niagara Falls once again for a weekend of poker. For the Niagara Pre-Trip Report, click here. I usually don't post these things so fast (since I'm still in Niagara as I write this), but an early night last night found me back at the motel by 9pm. So I thought I'd bang this one out.
For those who don't know, I live in Pittsburgh and pretty much the closest live poker is Niagara Falls, about 4 hours away. There's actually a casino with a poker room a little closer, but I like Niagara better. Although I've only played at this other place once and it was back in the beginning of my 'career'. Anyway, usually, I end up spending a weekend up at the Falls every month or every other month except during the summer months. Leave work early on Friday, stay until late afternoon on Sunday.
I'm going to end up repeating some things here that are also in the 'pre trip report', but here goes.
I get to the Microtel motel about 3:30. I end up waiting about 10 minutes before the front desk clerk can help me. She's new (as I heard her tell the women she was waiting on before me) and she was slow. Finally was able to check in. I get to my room, unpack, and figure out what I want to take with me to the poker room. I decided not to play NL live for the first time because I'm tired (see the pre-trip report on why I'm hesitant to play NL live). Didn't get much sleep last night and I don't want to try NL live for the first time if I'm not sharp. You have to pay more attention on how people play in NL as opposed to Limit. There's other reasons too. Puckhead is supposed to be in the poker room tomorrow and I'm hoping to end up on the same table as him so he can watch me play and offer tips. Plus, the max buyin for 1/2 is only $100. If you join an established game, it's not uncommon to see two or three people sitting there with a couple hundred dollars, putting you at a huge disadvantage with your 'short' stack. I figure showing up at 10ish on Saturday will give me a better chance of getting on a new table. Either that or I'll end up on a table still running from the night before!
It's 4:15 and I call the poker room to be put on the list for 2/4 and 3/6 Limit. I grab my stuff and head out the door. 30 minutes later, I'm walking into the poker room. I check in at the front desk and notice I'm 6th on the list for 3/6. As usual, there's only one table of 3/6 even thou there's a good 12 names on the waiting list. Being 6th, I don't think I'll be seeing 3/6 anytime soon. I'm 4th or so for 2/4 and there's two tables running. I say 4th or so because I'm like 6th on the list but it looks like 2 people ahead of me are phone ins and they aren't there yet. Even thou I'm 4th, it could be awhile as usually once someone gets on a 2/4 table, it's hard to get them off.
By the way, the bad beat jackpot is up to $296,000. Insane. You have to lose with quads and both players need to use both hole cards. It's starting to be a joke because it's so hard to hit. The players thought they had a winner the other day as someone lost with quads to a straight flush, but the straight flush lady only used one of her hole cards. That's rough!
I check the magazine rack. Last time I was here (January), they had free issues of Bluff. Figured I could read while waiting. The racks were empty. Either no more free magazines or there were no issues left. The table that is right near the entrance to the poker room is table #10. There's someone on a dinner break and since there's plenty of room at the front of the poker room, I decide to stand behind the empty seat of the dinner break guy and watch. It's a 1/2 NL table...cool. Let's see how these guys play.
After watching for about ten minutes, someone leaves. And nobody takes his seat. I watch for another five minutes or so. And the seat is still empty. I can't believe there isn't a list for 1/2 NL. I check the board and sure enough, no names! It's a sign! I should play 1/2 NL!! I think about it for another five minutes. I decide that the table seems pretty tight. I like this as it means I can relax, maybe limp in with some questionable hands and not worry about a preflop raise behind me, and if I don't get anything, I don't get anything. The standard preflop raise was around $7 (Puckhead warned me it was in the $7 to $10 range). OK, I can handle this. Just think about it as being my usual .02/.05 NL online game. But with $100, not $10.
I go up to the front desk and ask the woman if I can take the empty seat on table ten. She says sure. Gulp! I go over to the cage and just as I hand the guy my hundred, they call my name for 2/4! Fuck! Too late now. I tell them never mind for the 2/4 and I sit down at 1/2. Like 5 minutes later they call my name for 3/6. I'm here now...screw it...I wave them off again. If I crash and burn, I'll put my name back on the list for Limit.
I sit down just in time for the BB. A5s. Couple limpers, I check. Nothing on flop, I check/fold. I forget what I had in the SB, but I remember that I played it. I probably check/folded that hand too. Now I'm on the button and have 99. Couple limpers, I limp. No set, no bet....I fold. The rest of these hands aren't in order. I didn't write them down until after I was done playing and don't remember the order.
AK in LP. I don't raise. Miss the flop, I fold. One reason I didn't raise was because I was unsure how much to raise and I just sat down. I want to get used to the table first and relax a little.
I get some smaller pocket pairs and try to get in cheap with them looking for sets. Usually didn't work as I didn't get a set and would fold. Once I was in the BB with pocket threes. A couple limpers and the button raises to $7. He was an ok player. Not good, but not bad. I almost folded, but thought I'd take a shot. Flop comes 3-J-J. That's a pretty good flop for me! I thought about checking, but decide that if I bet and someone has a jack, maybe they'll raise and I can re-pop. Right or wrong? I bet $10. Everyone folds. Hmph. Beats losing.
I raise to $7 with AK (suited and non-suited) in EP/MP a couple times. And a couple times, I miss the flop completely, c-bet $10 or so anyway, end up getting raised, and I folded, blowing through $17 each time. I think it did work once.
Because of the missed pocket pairs and not hitting AK (I am starting to hate AK), I'm down to like $60. I don't want to rebuy (or top off) because I only set aside $100 for NL and once it's gone, I'm switching to Limit. I'm getting a little frustrated. Finally, my big hand of the night. Pocket sixes in either the SB or BB. I complete or check. Flop is A-6-2. I bet $10, hoping someone has an ace. Guy on end raises to $20. Excellent! I re-raise to $40 or something (I don't remember). He bets enough to put me all in and I call. I doubt he has pocket aces as no preflop raise, although I did see someone not raise preflop with aces. I thought that only happened on the Limit tables. Anyway, I flip over my set, his shoulders sink and he flips over pocket deuces for bottom set. Ace on the turn and now we both have full houses. No help for him on the river and I double up. That was cool! I'm not frustrated anymore.
A little while later, I get pocket queens on the button. Folded around to the guy to my right. He limps, I raise to $10, both blinds call, limper folds. Flop comes king high and is checked to me. I bet out $10, they both fold.
There's a guy in seat one who sucks. Seems like he stays in with any kind of draw, no matter the bet, no matter the draw, he has to call. He's not going to last long....must try to get his money! He kinda looks like an older Chris Elliot, so that's what we'll call him. He was slightly annoying as it seems he knew how to play, but perhaps didn't have much live experience. Several times, we had to explain to him what was going on.
So, I get pocket aces. And this is like the 5th time this table had pocket aces and they held up every time. So the joke was that this couldn't last long. And I just knew I was going to get them cracked. Chris Elliot limps, maybe one other limper, I don't want anybody else, so I raise to $10. Chris Elliot calls (I have NO idea what he has since he sucks so). The other limper folds. Not sure of the flop, but I know there were two clubs...I believe like a 4 and 5 of clubs, and like a nine or something. He checks. I don't want him flushing out on me...I just want to end the hand. I go all in. Just kidding. I bet $20. He thought for a while and folded. Whew.
One thing I noticed is more people showed their uncalled hands. More than in the Limit games. I was surprised. I don't know if it was because it seemed like a friendly table. But I don't plan on showing my hand at anytime if I don't have to.
There is a guy in seat 2...older guy. At least two dealers called him "Coach". Coach seems to know what he's doing. His raises are consistent and I think he bought some pots because he knew the flop missed everyone and he took the pot just by betting at it. He would also raise to steal the blinds when he could. I decide to stay out of his way.
The other side of the table (I'm in seat 5) is young. They're ok players. Aggressive enough, but not too bad.
Some other hands went nowhere..suited connectors, Ax suited, etc. It was 8:05 and I decided to pack it in. I was up $15 and really wanted to walk away a winner. A small win, but a win. I thought I played ok. There were only one or two semi-tough decision. Like hitting TP, but worried about my kicker and being bet into. Or having second pair and having a weak player bet into me. I pretty much gave up on those hands, figuring I'll have a better chance to get money with a better hand later.
Starting with just $100 (50 BB) does make a big difference. You can find yourself quickly pot committed. And you also have to watch out for other players with short stacks because you might make a $10 bet and be facing a $40 all-in raise.
I was a little worried about trying to keep track of the pot so I would know how much to bet and so I know how much was in the pot. But I quickly got used to sizing up the pot by looking at it and doing a quick guess of how many $5 chips were in there. The play was ok. I saw some interesting plays by some weaker players. But I wouldn't say it was as bad as .02/.05 NL....although it did seem like some people were calling down with second pair. I do think the table was pretty tight for a 1/2 table. Which was fine by me so I could get my feet wet. My high water mark was around $130.
After I cashed out, I sat on a bench and wrote down why I decided to stop playing so early. Here are the reasons (in no particular order):
* I'm tired and hungry
* Wanted to walk away a winner. If I ended up under $100, I know I would have kept playing until I went back over $100 or lost it all.
* Want to try again tomorrow (as mentioned) with Puckhead
* and didn't want to blow my whole NL wad in one night
Some other stories. There was a massage therepist in the room. $1 a minute, 5 minute minimum. So one of the guys at our table asks her to come over. He says he wants her to do his whole back, but maybe a little more on his lower back. She misunderstood and says something like 'you want me to do your whole back?". He says yeah, but to spend a little time down there. We all started giggling at that one. Perhaps you had to be there for that one.
The table behind us was the Omaha table. And playing at the table was Tight Claire. I've talked about Tight Claire before. Older woman...almost spinster-like. She got into an argument one other time I was there. This time it was worse. I'm not sure what happened, but her and another guy were really going at it. The manager had to come over once. Things simmered down, only to flare up again in a few minutes. The guy said he wished Claire was a man because he would take her outside right now. Claire said that shouldn't stop him. The dealer threatened to get the manager again, but they simmered down again. Fun stuff.
We had one dealer, Adam, who was a jerk. I've been going to Seneca for a couple years now and Adam has always been great. He even lowered the rake when we would get shorthanded without asking the manager. But lately, he's been super jerky. He was very short with Chris Elliot guy. I can imagine being a dealer would really get to you eventually...dealing with stupid people all day long. But that's no excuse. A lot of the time, people will forget to post their blind. Most dealers will remind the player, and start dealing. And if the guy still hasn't posted his blind when the dealer was done dealing, the dealer reminds him again. No harm, no foul. Happens all the time. Adam tells the blinds to post, they aren't paying attention, and Adam just sits there with the deck in his hand not saying a word. Finally, just as I'm telling the stupid guys to post (it was Chris Elliot and Coach), Adam says he's not allowed to deal until the blinds are posted and he can wait as long as we can. What an ass!! I don't know what happened to him, but he went from one of my favorite dealers to one of my most hated.
Anyway, end of the day. I go to Morrie's and get an awesome Fried chicken wrap (love those things!) and head to the motel room to watch the Sabres hockey game and eat dinner. That's it for Day One. Don't know when I'll get to writing up Day Two (since it hasn't even happened yet!).
For those who don't know, I live in Pittsburgh and pretty much the closest live poker is Niagara Falls, about 4 hours away. There's actually a casino with a poker room a little closer, but I like Niagara better. Although I've only played at this other place once and it was back in the beginning of my 'career'. Anyway, usually, I end up spending a weekend up at the Falls every month or every other month except during the summer months. Leave work early on Friday, stay until late afternoon on Sunday.
I'm going to end up repeating some things here that are also in the 'pre trip report', but here goes.
I get to the Microtel motel about 3:30. I end up waiting about 10 minutes before the front desk clerk can help me. She's new (as I heard her tell the women she was waiting on before me) and she was slow. Finally was able to check in. I get to my room, unpack, and figure out what I want to take with me to the poker room. I decided not to play NL live for the first time because I'm tired (see the pre-trip report on why I'm hesitant to play NL live). Didn't get much sleep last night and I don't want to try NL live for the first time if I'm not sharp. You have to pay more attention on how people play in NL as opposed to Limit. There's other reasons too. Puckhead is supposed to be in the poker room tomorrow and I'm hoping to end up on the same table as him so he can watch me play and offer tips. Plus, the max buyin for 1/2 is only $100. If you join an established game, it's not uncommon to see two or three people sitting there with a couple hundred dollars, putting you at a huge disadvantage with your 'short' stack. I figure showing up at 10ish on Saturday will give me a better chance of getting on a new table. Either that or I'll end up on a table still running from the night before!
It's 4:15 and I call the poker room to be put on the list for 2/4 and 3/6 Limit. I grab my stuff and head out the door. 30 minutes later, I'm walking into the poker room. I check in at the front desk and notice I'm 6th on the list for 3/6. As usual, there's only one table of 3/6 even thou there's a good 12 names on the waiting list. Being 6th, I don't think I'll be seeing 3/6 anytime soon. I'm 4th or so for 2/4 and there's two tables running. I say 4th or so because I'm like 6th on the list but it looks like 2 people ahead of me are phone ins and they aren't there yet. Even thou I'm 4th, it could be awhile as usually once someone gets on a 2/4 table, it's hard to get them off.
By the way, the bad beat jackpot is up to $296,000. Insane. You have to lose with quads and both players need to use both hole cards. It's starting to be a joke because it's so hard to hit. The players thought they had a winner the other day as someone lost with quads to a straight flush, but the straight flush lady only used one of her hole cards. That's rough!
I check the magazine rack. Last time I was here (January), they had free issues of Bluff. Figured I could read while waiting. The racks were empty. Either no more free magazines or there were no issues left. The table that is right near the entrance to the poker room is table #10. There's someone on a dinner break and since there's plenty of room at the front of the poker room, I decide to stand behind the empty seat of the dinner break guy and watch. It's a 1/2 NL table...cool. Let's see how these guys play.
After watching for about ten minutes, someone leaves. And nobody takes his seat. I watch for another five minutes or so. And the seat is still empty. I can't believe there isn't a list for 1/2 NL. I check the board and sure enough, no names! It's a sign! I should play 1/2 NL!! I think about it for another five minutes. I decide that the table seems pretty tight. I like this as it means I can relax, maybe limp in with some questionable hands and not worry about a preflop raise behind me, and if I don't get anything, I don't get anything. The standard preflop raise was around $7 (Puckhead warned me it was in the $7 to $10 range). OK, I can handle this. Just think about it as being my usual .02/.05 NL online game. But with $100, not $10.
I go up to the front desk and ask the woman if I can take the empty seat on table ten. She says sure. Gulp! I go over to the cage and just as I hand the guy my hundred, they call my name for 2/4! Fuck! Too late now. I tell them never mind for the 2/4 and I sit down at 1/2. Like 5 minutes later they call my name for 3/6. I'm here now...screw it...I wave them off again. If I crash and burn, I'll put my name back on the list for Limit.
I sit down just in time for the BB. A5s. Couple limpers, I check. Nothing on flop, I check/fold. I forget what I had in the SB, but I remember that I played it. I probably check/folded that hand too. Now I'm on the button and have 99. Couple limpers, I limp. No set, no bet....I fold. The rest of these hands aren't in order. I didn't write them down until after I was done playing and don't remember the order.
AK in LP. I don't raise. Miss the flop, I fold. One reason I didn't raise was because I was unsure how much to raise and I just sat down. I want to get used to the table first and relax a little.
I get some smaller pocket pairs and try to get in cheap with them looking for sets. Usually didn't work as I didn't get a set and would fold. Once I was in the BB with pocket threes. A couple limpers and the button raises to $7. He was an ok player. Not good, but not bad. I almost folded, but thought I'd take a shot. Flop comes 3-J-J. That's a pretty good flop for me! I thought about checking, but decide that if I bet and someone has a jack, maybe they'll raise and I can re-pop. Right or wrong? I bet $10. Everyone folds. Hmph. Beats losing.
I raise to $7 with AK (suited and non-suited) in EP/MP a couple times. And a couple times, I miss the flop completely, c-bet $10 or so anyway, end up getting raised, and I folded, blowing through $17 each time. I think it did work once.
Because of the missed pocket pairs and not hitting AK (I am starting to hate AK), I'm down to like $60. I don't want to rebuy (or top off) because I only set aside $100 for NL and once it's gone, I'm switching to Limit. I'm getting a little frustrated. Finally, my big hand of the night. Pocket sixes in either the SB or BB. I complete or check. Flop is A-6-2. I bet $10, hoping someone has an ace. Guy on end raises to $20. Excellent! I re-raise to $40 or something (I don't remember). He bets enough to put me all in and I call. I doubt he has pocket aces as no preflop raise, although I did see someone not raise preflop with aces. I thought that only happened on the Limit tables. Anyway, I flip over my set, his shoulders sink and he flips over pocket deuces for bottom set. Ace on the turn and now we both have full houses. No help for him on the river and I double up. That was cool! I'm not frustrated anymore.
A little while later, I get pocket queens on the button. Folded around to the guy to my right. He limps, I raise to $10, both blinds call, limper folds. Flop comes king high and is checked to me. I bet out $10, they both fold.
There's a guy in seat one who sucks. Seems like he stays in with any kind of draw, no matter the bet, no matter the draw, he has to call. He's not going to last long....must try to get his money! He kinda looks like an older Chris Elliot, so that's what we'll call him. He was slightly annoying as it seems he knew how to play, but perhaps didn't have much live experience. Several times, we had to explain to him what was going on.
So, I get pocket aces. And this is like the 5th time this table had pocket aces and they held up every time. So the joke was that this couldn't last long. And I just knew I was going to get them cracked. Chris Elliot limps, maybe one other limper, I don't want anybody else, so I raise to $10. Chris Elliot calls (I have NO idea what he has since he sucks so). The other limper folds. Not sure of the flop, but I know there were two clubs...I believe like a 4 and 5 of clubs, and like a nine or something. He checks. I don't want him flushing out on me...I just want to end the hand. I go all in. Just kidding. I bet $20. He thought for a while and folded. Whew.
One thing I noticed is more people showed their uncalled hands. More than in the Limit games. I was surprised. I don't know if it was because it seemed like a friendly table. But I don't plan on showing my hand at anytime if I don't have to.
There is a guy in seat 2...older guy. At least two dealers called him "Coach". Coach seems to know what he's doing. His raises are consistent and I think he bought some pots because he knew the flop missed everyone and he took the pot just by betting at it. He would also raise to steal the blinds when he could. I decide to stay out of his way.
The other side of the table (I'm in seat 5) is young. They're ok players. Aggressive enough, but not too bad.
Some other hands went nowhere..suited connectors, Ax suited, etc. It was 8:05 and I decided to pack it in. I was up $15 and really wanted to walk away a winner. A small win, but a win. I thought I played ok. There were only one or two semi-tough decision. Like hitting TP, but worried about my kicker and being bet into. Or having second pair and having a weak player bet into me. I pretty much gave up on those hands, figuring I'll have a better chance to get money with a better hand later.
Starting with just $100 (50 BB) does make a big difference. You can find yourself quickly pot committed. And you also have to watch out for other players with short stacks because you might make a $10 bet and be facing a $40 all-in raise.
I was a little worried about trying to keep track of the pot so I would know how much to bet and so I know how much was in the pot. But I quickly got used to sizing up the pot by looking at it and doing a quick guess of how many $5 chips were in there. The play was ok. I saw some interesting plays by some weaker players. But I wouldn't say it was as bad as .02/.05 NL....although it did seem like some people were calling down with second pair. I do think the table was pretty tight for a 1/2 table. Which was fine by me so I could get my feet wet. My high water mark was around $130.
After I cashed out, I sat on a bench and wrote down why I decided to stop playing so early. Here are the reasons (in no particular order):
* I'm tired and hungry
* Wanted to walk away a winner. If I ended up under $100, I know I would have kept playing until I went back over $100 or lost it all.
* Want to try again tomorrow (as mentioned) with Puckhead
* and didn't want to blow my whole NL wad in one night
Some other stories. There was a massage therepist in the room. $1 a minute, 5 minute minimum. So one of the guys at our table asks her to come over. He says he wants her to do his whole back, but maybe a little more on his lower back. She misunderstood and says something like 'you want me to do your whole back?". He says yeah, but to spend a little time down there. We all started giggling at that one. Perhaps you had to be there for that one.
The table behind us was the Omaha table. And playing at the table was Tight Claire. I've talked about Tight Claire before. Older woman...almost spinster-like. She got into an argument one other time I was there. This time it was worse. I'm not sure what happened, but her and another guy were really going at it. The manager had to come over once. Things simmered down, only to flare up again in a few minutes. The guy said he wished Claire was a man because he would take her outside right now. Claire said that shouldn't stop him. The dealer threatened to get the manager again, but they simmered down again. Fun stuff.
We had one dealer, Adam, who was a jerk. I've been going to Seneca for a couple years now and Adam has always been great. He even lowered the rake when we would get shorthanded without asking the manager. But lately, he's been super jerky. He was very short with Chris Elliot guy. I can imagine being a dealer would really get to you eventually...dealing with stupid people all day long. But that's no excuse. A lot of the time, people will forget to post their blind. Most dealers will remind the player, and start dealing. And if the guy still hasn't posted his blind when the dealer was done dealing, the dealer reminds him again. No harm, no foul. Happens all the time. Adam tells the blinds to post, they aren't paying attention, and Adam just sits there with the deck in his hand not saying a word. Finally, just as I'm telling the stupid guys to post (it was Chris Elliot and Coach), Adam says he's not allowed to deal until the blinds are posted and he can wait as long as we can. What an ass!! I don't know what happened to him, but he went from one of my favorite dealers to one of my most hated.
Anyway, end of the day. I go to Morrie's and get an awesome Fried chicken wrap (love those things!) and head to the motel room to watch the Sabres hockey game and eat dinner. That's it for Day One. Don't know when I'll get to writing up Day Two (since it hasn't even happened yet!).
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by randy72560 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:12 pm
Great post Snickers! I knew you would do fine... It reminds me of my first NL game in a casino... I was nervous, then frustrated, and then I doubled up and loved it!!! GL today, wish I was there!
Edit: Jesus at my typos! Sorry all...
Edit: Jesus at my typos! Sorry all...
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by mirage » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:47 pm
Eruu wrote:Watching grass grow is much more exciting than limit.
FYP
j/k I just love how the limit players get all hot and bothered when people poke fun at it
Nice report Snicks, looking forward to tonight's. Do me a favor and raise more
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by mewsiclovr » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:38 pm
Mirage wrote:Eruu wrote:Watching grass grow is much more exciting than limit.
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QFT
Nice report man, looking forward to day 2!
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by ihatejacks » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:30 pm
Biggle10 wrote:Eruu wrote:
NL is much more exciting than limit.
It is!!!!
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by snickers99 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:04 am
labatsman wrote:...one day I will make it down there...It's about a 3 hour drive for me.
What!!!???!?!? You're three hours away and you haven't been down for one of our Niagara trips? WTF?
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by snickers99 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:41 am
johnny wrote:omg wtf, how long have you been back at the hotel and we don't know how the night went yet?
Just got back when I posted the above. Go see the 'pre-trip' thread for how I did tonight. I'll give you a hint. I hate NL.
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by bl » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:15 am
A couple limpers and the button raises to $7. He was an ok player. Not good, but not bad. I almost folded, but thought I'd take a shot. Flop comes 3-J-J. That's a pretty good flop for me! I thought about checking, but decide that if I bet and someone has a jack, maybe they'll raise and I can re-pop. Right or wrong? I bet $10. Everyone folds. Hmph. Beats losing.
Snickers, let's talk about this hand. You just flopped the 3rd nuts (if he has J3 god bless him) and if I'm reading right there are at least a limper or two plus the raiser left behind you to act.
I hate slow playing but if there is ever a spot for it THIS IS IT. At the very least the button would c-bet if it's checked to him. As played if I'm villian I see a tight (and so far timid) player bet into 4 players on a scary board. I'd say worst case your trip Jacks with a crap kicker. Let someone or take a card off and hopefully someone picks up a flush or st draw. I think you missed at least a c-bet of 10-15 from the button here.
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by bram » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:24 am
Ugignadl wrote:Thanks for the report Snicks! Although you really need to raise more, especially in LP with prem. hands
99 on the button especially, and see if you had reloaded b4 your 66 hand you would have made an extra $40
and slow play that 33 hand, NL is fun though hey!
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by bl » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:13 pm
I'd like to hear more about the AK hands as well. You said you bet 10 on the flop, got raised and folded. Were you in position? how many callers pf did you get? who raised you?
AK is a tough NL hand but if you were leading out 10 into 25-30 pots I would be raising you too. Especially if I've watched you lay down before. I'd say you need to vary your flop play a bit with draw hands. Maybe try check raising or check behind on flops. Also a re-raise on the flop can show monster strength as well.
Again from villians side: If I called you with 66 and the flop was T73 and you lead for 10 a good aggressive player will re-pop you to find out where he is. If you come back over the top on me all of a sudden my hand (and balls) just shrunk up. Also if I've flopped top pair on you with JT and you check behind I'm hating any over card hitting the turn aside from a Jack. That's 3 Aces and 3 Kings giving you the best hand as well as 4 Q's giving you scare cards. I think of AK like a flush draw. It's a draw but it's something. You can't just always muck to any bet after raising preflop. You'll get run over.
AK is a tough NL hand but if you were leading out 10 into 25-30 pots I would be raising you too. Especially if I've watched you lay down before. I'd say you need to vary your flop play a bit with draw hands. Maybe try check raising or check behind on flops. Also a re-raise on the flop can show monster strength as well.
Again from villians side: If I called you with 66 and the flop was T73 and you lead for 10 a good aggressive player will re-pop you to find out where he is. If you come back over the top on me all of a sudden my hand (and balls) just shrunk up. Also if I've flopped top pair on you with JT and you check behind I'm hating any over card hitting the turn aside from a Jack. That's 3 Aces and 3 Kings giving you the best hand as well as 4 Q's giving you scare cards. I think of AK like a flush draw. It's a draw but it's something. You can't just always muck to any bet after raising preflop. You'll get run over.
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