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by **ucbmoose** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:42 am

Got no action at all. Do I just check it to the river and hope someone hits something, or do I try to create action by betting small?

PokerStars Game #5279942038: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/06/17 - 11:35:04 (ET)
Table 'Seppina IV' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Freyagoddess ($16 in chips)
Seat 2: sonik1313 ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Vesna ($19.30 in chips)
Seat 4: justfives ($5.40 in chips)
Seat 5: UspGcc ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 6: renata100 ($10.35 in chips)
Seat 7: ucbmoose ($25.70 in chips)
Seat 8: northbaykid ($35.35 in chips)
UspGcc: posts small blind $0.10
renata100: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ucbmoose [9h 9s]
ucbmoose: calls $0.25
northbaykid: folds
Freyagoddess: folds
sonik1313: calls $0.25
Vesna: calls $0.25
justfives: folds
UspGcc: calls $0.15
renata100: checks
*** FLOP *** [4c 9d 9c]
UspGcc: checks
renata100: checks
ucbmoose: checks
sonik1313: checks
Vesna: checks
*** TURN *** [4c 9d 9c] [6c]
UspGcc: checks
renata100: checks
ucbmoose: bets $0.25
sonik1313: folds
Vesna: folds
UspGcc: folds
renata100: folds
ucbmoose collected $1.20 from pot
ucbmoose: shows [9h 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.25 | Rake $0.05
Board [4c 9d 9c 6c]
Seat 1: Freyagoddess folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sonik1313 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Vesna folded on the Turn
Seat 4: justfives (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: UspGcc (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: renata100 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: ucbmoose collected ($1.20)
Seat 8: northbaykid folded before Flop (didn't bet)

by **nixon** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:45 am

That's an annoying situation, and there's not a lot you can do. You basically have to hope somebody hits a monster, which is obviously extremely unlikely. You did the right thing, check it to try and induce action, and then bet when nobody bites. Shame they all folded though..

I flopped quads the other day and was lucky that someone also hit the nut flush on the turn, I basically took their whole stack. So yeah, just hope your opponent hits something, maybe anything, or else you'll make nothing out of quads.

by **poormanbilly** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:54 pm

I think I come out firing on the flop. It doesn't work as well at this level, but as you move up, it's a tricky play. You aren't going to win a big pot unless someone else has a big hand, so you might as well keep betting.

by **mewsiclovr** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:25 pm

I flopped quads in a home game once, only one caller. Checked to the river and then bet about 3/4 pot - he called and said he would have instafolded had he not paired on the river. Someone else has to have a decent had to get paid off, its just the way it goes.

by **bram** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:40 pm

PoorManBilly wrote:I think I come out firing on the flop. It doesn't work as well at this level, but as you move up, it's a tricky play. You aren't going to win a big pot unless someone else has a big hand, so you might as well keep betting.

Yeah I like this also as no one who hits quads bets it hard, so your actually hiding the hand you have, might not work at this level though.

by **goofyballer** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:04 pm

I don't like coming out firing in this situation so much because there's not a lot that calls you on that board. Maybe a flush draw, probably not a 4. I like betting the turn because someone might have a flush and now high clubs might come along for the ride as well.

by **easy_as_pie** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:23 pm

bet that shit, especially in multiway pots

you want to build a big pot from the start

by **poormanbilly** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:37 pm

This just happened a little bit ago...not a big pot, but better than nothing.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) TightPoker converter

CO ($9.85)
Button ($48.20)
SB ($47.90)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($23.35)
MP ($57.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with :2d:

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MP calls $1, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) :2h:

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(3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG folds, MP calls $2.

Turn: ($6.50) :8h:

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50.

River: ($11.50) :Qc:

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

Final Pot: $25.50

Hero has 2d 2s (four of a kind, twos).
MP has Kd Qh (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $25.50.

by **ugignadl** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:18 am

*points at PMB HH*

That's how you play 'em

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by **goofyballer** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:39 am

Ugignadl wrote:*points at PMB HH*

That's how you play 'em .

wtf, like KQ actually calls the turn or river most of the time against someone that checked in the BB?

I do like this hand better though, mostly because the unpaired card is higher than the paired card making it more likely that someone will call down.

by **ugignadl** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:23 pm

goofyballer wrote:
Ugignadl wrote:*points at PMB HH*

That's how you play 'em .

wtf, like KQ actually calls the turn or river most of the time against someone that checked in the BB?

I do like this hand better though, mostly because the unpaired card is higher than the paired card making it more likely that someone will call down.

I hardly think PMB put this particular villain on KQ...anyway, some stupidity is can never go astray. Retarded thoughts like ``well, pot is big now...just have to call it down...'' are encouraged in this situation.

Can you achieve greater extraction?

by **poormanbilly** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:00 pm

Ugignadl wrote:[
I hardly think PMB put this particular villain on KQ...anyway, some stupidity is can never go astray. Retarded thoughts like ``well, pot is big now...just have to call it down...'' are encouraged in this situation.

Can you achieve greater extraction?

KQ was my very first guess

Actually, I thought for sure he was going to raise me on the river and show clubs.

Goofy, I'm not actually sure how else it should be played. I think you give a little too much credit to players sitting down at the table with you.

by **poormanbilly** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:10 pm

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) TightPoker converter

CO ($48.75)
Button ($28.15)
SB ($15.50)
BB ($49.30)
Hero ($49.25)
MP ($46.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with :Qc:

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Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) :Ah:

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(2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) :8c:

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($16.75) :3d:

(2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP raises to $24, Hero raises to $41.25, MP calls $14.90 (All-In).

Final Pot: $96.90

Results hidden below:
Hero has Qc Qd (four of a kind, queens).
MP has Th As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $96.90.

by **caffiend** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:20 pm

goofyballer wrote:I don't like coming out firing in this situation so much because there's not a lot that calls you on that board. Maybe a flush draw, probably not a 4. I like betting the turn because someone might have a flush and now high clubs might come along for the ride as well.

I suspect it depends on the relative stupidity of your opponents. Here I'd probably check the turn too and hope for yet another club on the river which will probably yield you a loose call from a made flush thinking you're bluffing, or the Ac.

In a game with more post-flop play where people will test you with two pair, betting is probably a better option. That goes double for someone who'll fire again on the turn if you look weak with a scary flop.

by **neverthink** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:56 am

I flopped quads the other week and posted it, but I was lucky enough to have the other guy with Kings and after the raising war he stacked off to me. You gotta check it on the flop, and when it's checked around I fire the turn like you did, about 2/3 pot or so. It's not unusual to get nothing, you hold all the cards that people would need.

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