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First Hand What To Do ? ? ?
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First Hand What To Do ? ? ?
by tdostie@nc » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:05 pm
Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #1,710,559,950
Table Shanghai, 14 Jan 2006 10:30 AM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: maik xxx ($98.20 in chips)
Seat 2: dupit ($57.50 in chips)
Seat 3: strong x ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: littlepoison ($94.50 in chips)
Seat 5: dostietj [KD,KC] ($100 in chips) ..... SWEET First Hand
Seat 6: aardvark5 ($98 in chips)
Seat 7: jimmyo419 ($99 in chips)
Seat 8: hubbari ($12 in chips)
Seat 9: siknd ($155.25 in chips)
Seat 10: fontasia ($42.30 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
littlepoison posts blind ($0.50), dostietj posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
aardvark5 folds, jimmyo419 folds, hubbari bets $4, siknd folds, fontasia folds, maik xxx calls $4, dupit folds, strong x folds, littlepoison folds, dostietj bets $13, hubbari calls $8 and is all-in, maik xxx calls $10. .....Villain
FLOP [board cards JD,AC,JH ] ..... FUCK YOU POKERROOM
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $4, dostietj calls $4. ..... Probably should've have reraised at this point to see where I am at
TURN [board cards JD,AC,JH,KH ] ..... SWEET I take back all the bad things I said about you Pokerroom (you all know what's coming next the “Pokerroom Affect”)
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $5, dostietj bets $10, maik xxx calls $5. ..... All about the value as I don't see him having JJ or AA
RIVER [board cards JD,AC,JH,KH,AS ] ..... FUCK POKERROOM FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU UP YOUR FUCKING ASSES.
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $70.20 and is all-in, dostietj folds.
SHOWDOWN
maik xxx shows [ JC,AD ] ..... NICE FUCKING CALL PREFLOP ASSHOLE I WILL BE HUNTING YOUR ASS DOWN THIS WEEKEND TO MAKE YOU EAT MY SHIT, THEN SHIT OUT MY SHIT, THEN EAT YOUR SHIT WHICH IS MADE UP OF MY SHIT THAT I MADE YOU EAT MARK MY WORDS FUCKER
hubbari shows [ 9H,6H ]
maik xxx wins $102.20, maik xxx wins $34.50.
SUMMARY
Dealer: strong x
Pot: $138.70, (including rake: $2)
maik xxx, bets $98.20, collects $136.70, net $38.50
dupit, loses $0
strong x, loses $0
littlepoison, loses $0.50
dostietj, loses $28
aardvark5, loses $0
jimmyo419, loses $0
hubbari, loses $12
siknd, loses $0
fontasia, loses $0
Aside from my rantings how would any of you play this hand differently. First hand so no reads and no stats on in Poker Tracker. It's only 11 am and I already feel like drinking very heavily. FUCK POKERROOM
Table Shanghai, 14 Jan 2006 10:30 AM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: maik xxx ($98.20 in chips)
Seat 2: dupit ($57.50 in chips)
Seat 3: strong x ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: littlepoison ($94.50 in chips)
Seat 5: dostietj [KD,KC] ($100 in chips) ..... SWEET First Hand
Seat 6: aardvark5 ($98 in chips)
Seat 7: jimmyo419 ($99 in chips)
Seat 8: hubbari ($12 in chips)
Seat 9: siknd ($155.25 in chips)
Seat 10: fontasia ($42.30 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
littlepoison posts blind ($0.50), dostietj posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
aardvark5 folds, jimmyo419 folds, hubbari bets $4, siknd folds, fontasia folds, maik xxx calls $4, dupit folds, strong x folds, littlepoison folds, dostietj bets $13, hubbari calls $8 and is all-in, maik xxx calls $10. .....Villain
FLOP [board cards JD,AC,JH ] ..... FUCK YOU POKERROOM
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $4, dostietj calls $4. ..... Probably should've have reraised at this point to see where I am at
TURN [board cards JD,AC,JH,KH ] ..... SWEET I take back all the bad things I said about you Pokerroom (you all know what's coming next the “Pokerroom Affect”)
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $5, dostietj bets $10, maik xxx calls $5. ..... All about the value as I don't see him having JJ or AA
RIVER [board cards JD,AC,JH,KH,AS ] ..... FUCK POKERROOM FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU UP YOUR FUCKING ASSES.
dostietj checks, maik xxx bets $70.20 and is all-in, dostietj folds.
SHOWDOWN
maik xxx shows [ JC,AD ] ..... NICE FUCKING CALL PREFLOP ASSHOLE I WILL BE HUNTING YOUR ASS DOWN THIS WEEKEND TO MAKE YOU EAT MY SHIT, THEN SHIT OUT MY SHIT, THEN EAT YOUR SHIT WHICH IS MADE UP OF MY SHIT THAT I MADE YOU EAT MARK MY WORDS FUCKER
hubbari shows [ 9H,6H ]
maik xxx wins $102.20, maik xxx wins $34.50.
SUMMARY
Dealer: strong x
Pot: $138.70, (including rake: $2)
maik xxx, bets $98.20, collects $136.70, net $38.50
dupit, loses $0
strong x, loses $0
littlepoison, loses $0.50
dostietj, loses $28
aardvark5, loses $0
jimmyo419, loses $0
hubbari, loses $12
siknd, loses $0
fontasia, loses $0
Aside from my rantings how would any of you play this hand differently. First hand so no reads and no stats on in Poker Tracker. It's only 11 am and I already feel like drinking very heavily. FUCK POKERROOM
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by mervhage » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:49 pm
Wow, as far as I can tell, I lose everything on the turn b/c I would bet so hard it's not even funny.
You showed some interesting restraint on the turn.
The cursing is good, but I would have cursed a little more.
You showed some interesting restraint on the turn.
The cursing is good, but I would have cursed a little more.
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by cavman » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:54 pm
Not much you can do with the way the cards came out. He's not going to fold, and the river card, obviously, makes your hand pretty close to worthless. But, as for your play:
I think you shouldn't bet the flop sort of as a last resort. He doesn't know you don't have an ace, and if he calls or folds you can be pretty sure you are beat. (this advice would've been bad here, because K came on turn, but this is generally how I play when ace flops on my KK.)
On the turn, I would've raised more. With that board, he either has nothing, or a very strong hand that he will lose a lot of money with. If he's willing to call the $5, he's willing to call $25, IMO. Then you can get it in on the river (unless its an ace).
River is a terrible card, but it happens. just don't tilt off too much afterwards
I think you shouldn't bet the flop sort of as a last resort. He doesn't know you don't have an ace, and if he calls or folds you can be pretty sure you are beat. (this advice would've been bad here, because K came on turn, but this is generally how I play when ace flops on my KK.)
On the turn, I would've raised more. With that board, he either has nothing, or a very strong hand that he will lose a lot of money with. If he's willing to call the $5, he's willing to call $25, IMO. Then you can get it in on the river (unless its an ace).
River is a terrible card, but it happens. just don't tilt off too much afterwards
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by easy_as_pie » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:31 pm
yeah sucks....as funny as it might sound to some people its a nice fold
on the river though ...a lot of people would call just because they cant
lay down a boat
the hand: I raise to $20 preflop (1st hand, 2 limpers, KK is deepthroating
if an A flops so you need to protect it), call flop but raise the turn heavy
on the river though ...a lot of people would call just because they cant
lay down a boat
the hand: I raise to $20 preflop (1st hand, 2 limpers, KK is deepthroating
if an A flops so you need to protect it), call flop but raise the turn heavy
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by tdostie@nc » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:59 pm
Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #1,712,154,979
Table Surabaya, 14 Jan 2006 05:53 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: knglmjt ($107.50 in chips)
Seat 2: krisjdk ($105.80 in chips)
Seat 3: alpha_sig ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Trixtor1 ($105.95 in chips)
Seat 5: master-vj ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 6: J_Doe ($103.60 in chips)
Seat 7: jimmyo419 ($93.50 in chips)
Seat 9: sugaman7 ($43.60 in chips)
Seat 10: dostietj [KH,KC] ($117 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
knglmjt posts blind ($0.50), krisjdk posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
alpha_sig calls $1, Trixtor1 calls $1, master-vj folds, J_Doe folds, jimmyo419 folds, sugaman7 calls $1, dostietj bets $6, knglmjt folds, krisjdk folds, alpha_sig folds, Trixtor1 calls $5, sugaman7 folds.
FLOP [board cards 2S,10D,2H ]
Trixtor1 bets $4, dostietj bets $12, Trixtor1 calls $8.
TURN [board cards 2S,10D,2H,8H ]
Trixtor1 checks, dostietj bets $25, Trixtor1 bets $87.95 and is all-in, dostietj ???
What do you do? No reads as this is only the second orbit and no Poker Tracker stats.
Table Surabaya, 14 Jan 2006 05:53 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: knglmjt ($107.50 in chips)
Seat 2: krisjdk ($105.80 in chips)
Seat 3: alpha_sig ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Trixtor1 ($105.95 in chips)
Seat 5: master-vj ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 6: J_Doe ($103.60 in chips)
Seat 7: jimmyo419 ($93.50 in chips)
Seat 9: sugaman7 ($43.60 in chips)
Seat 10: dostietj [KH,KC] ($117 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
knglmjt posts blind ($0.50), krisjdk posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
alpha_sig calls $1, Trixtor1 calls $1, master-vj folds, J_Doe folds, jimmyo419 folds, sugaman7 calls $1, dostietj bets $6, knglmjt folds, krisjdk folds, alpha_sig folds, Trixtor1 calls $5, sugaman7 folds.
FLOP [board cards 2S,10D,2H ]
Trixtor1 bets $4, dostietj bets $12, Trixtor1 calls $8.
TURN [board cards 2S,10D,2H,8H ]
Trixtor1 checks, dostietj bets $25, Trixtor1 bets $87.95 and is all-in, dostietj ???
What do you do? No reads as this is only the second orbit and no Poker Tracker stats.
Last edited by tdostie@nc on Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by goofyballer » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:03 pm
I'm not happy about it, but I probably call. Roughly 2.4:1. You're probably good 1 out of 3.4 times, but most of the time you're probably behind to a set.
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by easy_as_pie » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:56 am
i raise to at least 10 with premium hands on PokerRoom.
it works like a charm if you raise to like 10-15, especially out of the blinds,
people will call in hopes of hitting than decide they are pot committed and
try to take it away from you
i call on the turn
it works like a charm if you raise to like 10-15, especially out of the blinds,
people will call in hopes of hitting than decide they are pot committed and
try to take it away from you
i call on the turn
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by cavman » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:11 pm
goofyballer wrote:I'm not happy about it, but I probably call. Roughly 2.4:1.
Hope to see a flush draw with a 10, or maybe just an overplayed AT or something. I think you're ahead enough to call, but like goofyballer said, I'm not happy about it.
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