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Drop it like its hot...
by dp6711 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:59 pm
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (6 handed) TightPoker converter
Hero ($18.10)
BB ($46.30)
UTG ($82.20)
MP ($54.20)
CO ($74.90)
Button ($14.06)
Preflop: Hero is SB with
,
.
3 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.60)
,
,
(3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB folds, Button raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80.
Turn: ($3.00)
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $16.70, Button calls $10.80 (All-In).
River: ($32.90)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $32.90
Results hidden below:
Hero has 3h 6c (two pair, sixes and threes).
Button has 4h 4s (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins $32.90.
Hero ($18.10)
BB ($46.30)
UTG ($82.20)
MP ($54.20)
CO ($74.90)
Button ($14.06)
Preflop: Hero is SB with
,
.
3 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.60)
,
,
(3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB folds, Button raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80.
Turn: ($3.00)
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $16.70, Button calls $10.80 (All-In).
River: ($32.90)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $32.90
Results hidden below:
Hero has 3h 6c (two pair, sixes and threes).
Button has 4h 4s (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins $32.90.
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by snickers99 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:13 pm
sfustsh wrote:iHateJacks wrote:#1 fold preflop
#2 check/fold the flop
Concur...
As do I.
dp6711 wrote:But I'm in the SB, why not try it for a little bit of fun
That's fine, if you can release the hand. You have bottom pair with no kicker...you bet out, get raised. Time to let it go. I'm pretty tight from the SB...they have to fit together somehow. To me, 36o doesn't fit enough for me to play it.
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by ihatejacks » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:51 pm
dp6711 wrote:But I'm in the SB, why not try it for a little bit of fun
If your idea of having fun is losing money, then go for it
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by panhandle88 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:05 pm
Yeah, I don't mind completing the small blind there but I'm checking the flop then folding to any bets. But hey if you just want to gamble some then have at it!
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by dp6711 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:32 pm
iHateJacks wrote:dp6711 wrote:But I'm in the SB, why not try it for a little bit of fun
If your idea of having fun losing money, then go for it
The only way to make money is to be willing to risk some of it. One of the best tips that I learned about life.
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by sfustsh » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:45 am
dp6711 wrote:iHateJacks wrote:dp6711 wrote:But I'm in the SB, why not try it for a little bit of fun
If your idea of having fun losing money, then go for it
The only way to make money is to be willing to risk some of it. One of the best tips that I learned about life.
There's playable and then there's trash. 36 suited, now you can make a case. But 36o has little potential.
The small blind losses more money than any other position on the table. The button makes the most money. So let's put it this way: if you wouldn't play that hand from the button, you should fold it from the SB.
Think about what kind of flop you're hoping to see. If you flop a pair, it's surely not top pair. You're basically hoping to flop some sort of draw, but you would prefer to play a draw in position. It's just not a good investment.
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by ihatejacks » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:40 pm
dp6711 wrote:iHateJacks wrote:dp6711 wrote:But I'm in the SB, why not try it for a little bit of fun
If your idea of having fun losing money, then go for it
The only way to make money is to be willing to risk some of it. One of the best tips that I learned about life.
That's very true, but you need to know the difference between a +EV risk and a -EV risk. In the long run, playing 63o from the SB (or any position really) is going to be -EV and cost you money.
Poker is all about maximizing your winnings while minimizing your losses.
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by ihatejacks » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:28 pm
If you want to be LAG (loose aggressive) at least have suited connectors or even connectors. Also, to be LAG, you have to be loose AND aggressive, not just loose. If you're loose passive you're going to get torn apart fast by anyone at the table who is halfway decent.
If you think you're going to be winning a lot of big pots with 36o then please tell me your screen name and what sites you play at so I can play against you.
Why post this hand if you're not even going to consider listening to the advice we're offering you based on many thousands of hands of experience?
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink!!"
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by nlman » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:23 pm
iHateJacks wrote:#1 fold preflop
This hand is pretty hopeless preflop even if you are on the small blind. There is no flush, there is very little straight possibility and a bottom pair is not something you are looking to have on the flop.
#2 check/fold the flop
I disagree with the check part. Since you actually did end up playing this hand (lets say you misclicked
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by ihatejacks » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:31 pm
I think that betting out on a K34 flop with 3's is only going to get called by a hand that has you crushed, about 50% of the time and it's really not worth putting any more chips in the middle. What if someone calls? You can't bet the turn without expecting a call again by a hand that has you beat.
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