Did I play this wrong?

[sfustsh]

#Game No : 165454037
***** Hand History for Game 165454037 *****
$0.25/$0.50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 11, 01:22:07 2006
Table El Hombre (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Surfot ($14.28)
Seat 2: sfustsh ($49.25)
Seat 3: nova123 ($49.20)
Seat 4: TrenAlma ($37.80)
Seat 5: Gerloss ($9.95)
Seat 6: Sandra_N ($31.53)
nova123 posts small blind [$0.25]
TrenAlma posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sfustsh [ Js 8d ]
Gerloss calls [$0.50]
Sandra_N folds
Surfot folds
sfustsh calls [$0.50]
nova123 calls [$0.25]
TrenAlma checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d Jd 7h ]
nova123 checks
TrenAlma checks
Gerloss bets [$1.50]
sfustsh calls [$1.50]
nova123 calls [$1.50]
TrenAlma folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
nova123 checks
Gerloss checks
sfustsh bets [$3.00]
nova123 calls [$3.00]
Gerloss folds
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
nova123 checks
sfustsh bets [$7.00]
nova123 calls [$7.00]
sfustsh shows [ Js 8d ] Two Pair, Jacks and Eights
nova123 shows [ Tc 7c ] Three of a Kind, Sevens
nova123 wins $25.20 from the main pot

I've been losing a lot of money like this lately, I think something is fundamentally wrong with my game right now. No reads, I just sat down.

[ugignadl]

Fold preflop, check turn, bet river.

[poormanbilly]

Fold preflop, check turn, bet river.

Er... you got the fold preflop right. Raise flop 3x-ish and shut down if you don't win it there.

[neverthink]

Fold preflop, even from the small blind, it's garbage. As played, raise flop, either take it down (maybe fold out a better hand than yours), or shutdown to a call. When you improve on the river, still imagine you are behind trip sevens and call a reasonable bet hoping you are good. Aim for cheap showdown whatever.

You're losing money like this because you are leaking cash preflop with loose calls, and are playing passively with marginal holdings post flop. You need to bet and raise for info, calling just leads to paying off better hands most of the time. J8o just isn't going to do well enough at showdown very often, so you have to be enforcing the action somewhat and hoping you can get a bit lucky or play somebody off a better hand.

[sfustsh]

I guess I need to tighten up, new sites are not rock gardens like the old ones are.

I'm spewing cash around now.

[ugignadl]

I didn't mention the flop?

Anyway, as these guys are saying, preflop is where the money was lost here.

[sfustsh]

#Game No : 165460046
***** Hand History for Game 165460046 *****
$0.25/$0.50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 11, 01:52:10 2006
Table El Hombre (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: xlair ($41.40)
Seat 2: sfustsh ($50.00)
Seat 3: Bro01 ($60.08)
Seat 4: TrenAlma ($88.55)
Seat 6: Sandra_N ($23.63)
Bro01 posts small blind [$0.25]
TrenAlma posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sfustsh [ Jd Kd ]
Sandra_N folds
xlair calls [$0.50]
sfustsh calls [$0.50] << raise?
Bro01 calls [$0.25]
TrenAlma checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh Td 6c ]
Bro01 checks
TrenAlma checks
xlair checks
sfustsh bets [$2.00] <pot
Bro01 calls [$2.00]
TrenAlma folds
xlair folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
Bro01 checks
sfustsh bets [$3.50] <<3.5/6
Bro01 calls [$3.50]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
Bro01 checks
sfustsh checks
Bro01 shows [ As Kc ] High Card, Ace
sfustsh shows [ Jd Kd ] a Pair, Jacks
sfustsh wins $12.35 from the main pot

Here's another one, I won this one but I was somewhat freightened. I got more value than that hand is worth on that board I think.

[ugignadl]

I'd fold preflop here again, but if you are going to play you must raise.

[sfustsh]

Really? This one's on the button too. God I used to have a good range too.

Does it change if CO doesn't limp?

[poormanbilly]

Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: sfustsh ($50.00)
Dealt to sfustsh [ Jd Kd ]
xlair calls [$0.50]
sfustsh calls [$0.50] << raise?

Yes, between $2.00 and $2.50

[sfustsh]

#Game No : 165463441
***** Hand History for Game 165463441 *****
$0.25/$0.50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 11, 02:10:56 2006
Table El Hombre (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: xlair ($28.55)
Seat 2: sfustsh ($68.15)
Seat 3: Bro01 ($56.18)
Seat 4: TrenAlma ($88.45)
Seat 5: Tank_ebboT ($25.50)
Seat 6: Sandra_N ($20.93)
xlair posts small blind [$0.25]
sfustsh posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sfustsh [ Qs Ac ]
Bro01 folds
TrenAlma folds
Tank_ebboT folds
Sandra_N folds
xlair calls [$0.25]
sfustsh raises [$1.00]
xlair calls [$1.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts Kd 6h ]
xlair checks
sfustsh checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
xlair bets [$2.75]
sfustsh calls [$2.75]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
xlair bets [$3.75]
sfustsh raises [$12.00]
xlair folds
sfustsh is refunded uncalled bet $8.25
sfustsh does not show cards.
sfustsh wins $15.20 from the main pot

How about this one, I decided not to c-bet because I was positive he'd call and I really had nothing. I think I should have raised the turn, I don't know what I was afraid of.

Now I'm pretty sure a 3bb raise from the BB unlimped with AQo is not too loose here ...

[ugignadl]

You min-raised from the big blind? What are you hoping to achieve?

I make it $2.25 from there, maybe even more.

[sfustsh]

Haha I was trying to type 1.5...

[neverthink]

#Game No : 165463441
***** Hand History for Game 165463441 *****
$0.25/$0.50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 11, 02:10:56 2006
Table El Hombre (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: xlair ($28.55)
Seat 2: sfustsh ($68.15)
Seat 3: Bro01 ($56.18)
Seat 4: TrenAlma ($88.45)
Seat 5: Tank_ebboT ($25.50)
Seat 6: Sandra_N ($20.93)
xlair posts small blind [$0.25]
sfustsh posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sfustsh [ Qs Ac ]
Bro01 folds
TrenAlma folds
Tank_ebboT folds
Sandra_N folds
xlair calls [$0.25]
sfustsh raises [$1.00]
xlair calls [$1.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts Kd 6h ] Reasonable flop to c-bet into.
xlair checks
sfustsh checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ] Possibly behind so calling is ok.
xlair bets [$2.75]
sfustsh calls [$2.75]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
xlair bets [$3.75]
sfustsh raises [$12.00] Raise a little less, to like 8.50, you want a call.
xlair folds
sfustsh is refunded uncalled bet $8.25
sfustsh does not show cards.
sfustsh wins $15.20 from the main pot

How about this one, I decided not to c-bet because I was positive he'd call and I really had nothing. I think I should have raised the turn, I don't know what I was afraid of.

Now I'm pretty sure a 3bb raise from the BB unlimped with AQo is not too loose here ...

No you aren't too loose at all with this one, preflop is fine, but raise more. I c-bet the flop to try and take it down, it's not too drawy, and you may get a free card to your gutshot. Raising turn I don't like, you turn your hand into a bluff, and chances are you are getting called anyway. River, only a straight will call a raise that big, so you'll only ever chop. Raise smaller to where he has to look you up just in case.

[sfustsh]

Thanks for input everyone, my game has gone backwards recently.