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by sfustsh » Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:31 pm
BigDil511 wrote:flash wrote:BigDil511 wrote:I think this is a marignal situation in low limit tourny's but I don't see myself folding here, calling I think is terrible, so its a push/fold, I push.
I don't like pushing here, your FE is just about zero. See the flop and then decide.
What does he have on the flop if its all unders that gives you any FE anyway? If you push PF you have FE against JJ and AK, AA, KK will not fold doesn't matter. And if flop is all unders you push he isn't folding AA KK anyway so what difference does it make? Also by just calling you are giving away 1/3rd of your stack hoping an A or K doesn't come on the flop and you have no idea where you are than, calling just makes the situation much harder for you.
I think the point is that you can still get away if an A falls on the flop. Originally I thought pushing PF would be fine but you aren't getting any hands to fold PF that you don't beat on the flop. Your only chance to save this hand is to fold on the flop if an A hits. The point is that AK isn't folding anyway, and if an A comes you can still get away. I'd rather take 2/3 of my stack, knowing I folding a loser, than donk it all off so early.
If you shove PF, JJ and AK won't fold anyway. But by calling you might be able to save yourself if AK draws out. I agree if it's unders you have to shove and take your 60/40 chances he has AK or JJ instead of AA KK.
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by bigdil511 » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:04 pm
sfustsh wrote:BigDil511 wrote:flash wrote:BigDil511 wrote:I think this is a marignal situation in low limit tourny's but I don't see myself folding here, calling I think is terrible, so its a push/fold, I push.
I don't like pushing here, your FE is just about zero. See the flop and then decide.
What does he have on the flop if its all unders that gives you any FE anyway? If you push PF you have FE against JJ and AK, AA, KK will not fold doesn't matter. And if flop is all unders you push he isn't folding AA KK anyway so what difference does it make? Also by just calling you are giving away 1/3rd of your stack hoping an A or K doesn't come on the flop and you have no idea where you are than, calling just makes the situation much harder for you.
I think the point is that you can still get away if an A falls on the flop. Originally I thought pushing PF would be fine but you aren't getting any hands to fold PF that you don't beat on the flop. Your only chance to save this hand is to fold on the flop if an A hits. The point is that AK isn't folding anyway, and if an A comes you can still get away. I'd rather take 2/3 of my stack, knowing I folding a loser, than donk it all off so early.
If you shove PF, JJ and AK won't fold anyway. But by calling you might be able to save yourself if AK draws out. I agree if it's unders you have to shove and take your 60/40 chances he has AK or JJ instead of AA KK.
I seriously think you are outthinking yourself into folding. There are a number of hands you beat and 2 hands that have you dominated, if you do push and AK calls you win more than you lose so that isn't a bad scenario either. Also by just calling you are giving weaker hands a chance to catch up, seriously people will 3 bet AQ AJ, TT JJ here and you are dominating all of those hands so my answer is to push, don't overanalyze the situation.
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