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AQ two pair river decision, paired board and flush present
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AQ two pair river decision, paired board and flush present
by mewsiclovr » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:18 pm
check/call or bombs away? The table has generally been tight/passive.
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) TightPoker converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with
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1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (10 SB)
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(5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Turn: (9 BB)
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls.
River: (12 BB)
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero ???
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) TightPoker converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with
,
.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (10 SB)
,
,
(5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Turn: (9 BB)
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls.
River: (12 BB)
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero ???
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by sfustsh » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:37 pm
Mirage wrote:No way do I check behind there, if he has a 5 and goes for a c/r more power to him (you'd still have to call.) But that's so doubtful, no way you can check behind.
The problem is the flush draw.
This is basically an 'are you behind half the time' situation. If he's got nothing, MP2 will check down, so you lose a bet (or two, maybe). If he's got a flush, betting will cost you two bets (because he'll raise you).
On the other hand, if he doesn't have a flush, betting will net you one or two bets, but checking will lose you value.
Seems close either way, but I probably check here, given that 5 players on the flop usually means a flush draw somewhere.
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by snickers99 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:06 pm
sfustsh wrote:given that 5 players on the flop usually means a flush draw somewhere.
Agree...I'd check/call, although I wouldn't be surprised to see someone with a 5 and someone else with a flush.
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by mewsiclovr » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:23 pm
Almost the same situation came up again last night.
SB is the reason I'm at the table. He's running 90/5/0.6. That aggression factor is misleading though. He likes to donk-bluff the turn and river a LOT but has such a low aggression because he pretty much never folds the flop or turn, ever. I couldn't think of a legitimate hand that could c/r the flop and then check the turn so I checked behind to be safe. When the Ace hits I'm not sure what to do...I think I'd puke if SB c/r me again.
Can't remember CO's stats exactly but he was probably tight, everyone was tighter than a dog's ass except for SB.
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) TightPoker converter
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with
,
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3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO calls.
Flop: (10 SB)
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,
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB raises, Hero calls, CO calls.
Turn: (8 BB)
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.
River: (8 BB)
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero is thoroughly confused
SB is the reason I'm at the table. He's running 90/5/0.6. That aggression factor is misleading though. He likes to donk-bluff the turn and river a LOT but has such a low aggression because he pretty much never folds the flop or turn, ever. I couldn't think of a legitimate hand that could c/r the flop and then check the turn so I checked behind to be safe. When the Ace hits I'm not sure what to do...I think I'd puke if SB c/r me again.
Can't remember CO's stats exactly but he was probably tight, everyone was tighter than a dog's ass except for SB.
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) TightPoker converter
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with
,
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3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO calls.
Flop: (10 SB)
,
,
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB raises, Hero calls, CO calls.
Turn: (8 BB)
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.
River: (8 BB)
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero is thoroughly confused
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by sfustsh » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:22 pm
I would just bet, the range of aces that you're beating is huge, and you can't let CO off the hook yet. If he's got a suited ace he'll have to pay you off.
You really beat a shit ton of hands here. SB or CO likely would have had to bet the turn with a seven.
I am calling the river unless I get double raised behind.
You really beat a shit ton of hands here. SB or CO likely would have had to bet the turn with a seven.
I am calling the river unless I get double raised behind.
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