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AK turns 2 pair
by bram » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:05 am
erf probably should have bet more on the turn but I weighed letting villian chasing a draw against getting him to call with a weaker ace, will post results later. No real reads but its pacific so guessing he sucks.
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 37556117 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 11 20:51:16 2006
Table Lemmings Leap (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: HercKing ( $200 )
Seat 2: wildbor9 ( $89.65 )
Seat 3: jrbear ( $153.95 )
Seat 4: Mclane ( $208.43 )
Seat 5: vinlea81 ( $198 )
Seat 6: osakstad ( $170 )
Seat 7: bram22 ( $196.1 )
Seat 8: TheGryn ( $177.9 )
Seat 9: 5ofheart ( $314.75 )
vinlea81 posts small blind [$1].
osakstad posts big blind [$2].
HercKing posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bram22 [ Ac Ks ]
bram22 raises [$9].
TheGryn folds.
5ofheart calls [$9].
HercKing calls [$7].
wildbor9 folds.
jrbear folds.
Mclane folds.
vinlea81 folds.
osakstad calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 6s, 3c ]
osakstad checks.
bram22 bets [$25].
5ofheart calls [$25].
HercKing calls [$25].
osakstad folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
bram22 bets [$65].
5ofheart calls [$65].
HercKing folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
bram22 bets [$97.1].
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 37556117 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 11 20:51:16 2006
Table Lemmings Leap (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: HercKing ( $200 )
Seat 2: wildbor9 ( $89.65 )
Seat 3: jrbear ( $153.95 )
Seat 4: Mclane ( $208.43 )
Seat 5: vinlea81 ( $198 )
Seat 6: osakstad ( $170 )
Seat 7: bram22 ( $196.1 )
Seat 8: TheGryn ( $177.9 )
Seat 9: 5ofheart ( $314.75 )
vinlea81 posts small blind [$1].
osakstad posts big blind [$2].
HercKing posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bram22 [ Ac Ks ]
bram22 raises [$9].
TheGryn folds.
5ofheart calls [$9].
HercKing calls [$7].
wildbor9 folds.
jrbear folds.
Mclane folds.
vinlea81 folds.
osakstad calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 6s, 3c ]
osakstad checks.
bram22 bets [$25].
5ofheart calls [$25].
HercKing calls [$25].
osakstad folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
bram22 bets [$65].
5ofheart calls [$65].
HercKing folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
bram22 bets [$97.1].
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by mervhage » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:25 pm
I'm curious, with herc posting his BB out of position, why not raise more UTG, since you're looking at three blinds worth $5?
I'm thinking ~$12-14 (based on the circumstances), is this too much?
Anyhow, he's certainly played it passive thus far and I can't see what he might have that beats you. I think you played it fine and you'd hope a weaker two pair, or weak ace is going to call you.
I'm thinking ~$12-14 (based on the circumstances), is this too much?
Anyhow, he's certainly played it passive thus far and I can't see what he might have that beats you. I think you played it fine and you'd hope a weaker two pair, or weak ace is going to call you.
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by neverthink » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:16 pm
I hate this kind of position, I was in it the other day with 2 others on the river with TPTK OOP being called all the way. By the river, the pot was 120 and I had 60 left so I was calling any reasonable bet anyway and that would presumably put me all in, so I bet it instead of check/calling. Unfortunately for me, a really passive guy had trip twos, and didnt even raise the river with one guy left to act who covered him, after I went all in. All that calling is quite disconcerting, but, given the pot size, I couldn't fold, so its best to bet. Bad luck if it's trips, and if you rivered a better two pair, then he deserves it.
In position, I may consider checking that down if checked to me, if I feared trips enough, but OOP, you have to bet. Hate those passive trip set miner types.
In position, I may consider checking that down if checked to me, if I feared trips enough, but OOP, you have to bet. Hate those passive trip set miner types.
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by goofyballer » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:07 pm
I might c/c riv just because there's a lot of possible draws that might have missed that might bluff if checked to. That's about it though, looks good.
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by bram » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:33 pm
ok well he had J3 of spades and called my all in bet?!?!
I think the main reason I found this hand interesting is that I think he would have folded if I had bet like 50 which looks like a value bet whereas a push gets looked up by someone with 3rd pair no kicker.
I am starting to push a lot more hands, giving up a bit of value in the hopes that someone looks me up and I get their whole stack, so far it is working out well
I think the main reason I found this hand interesting is that I think he would have folded if I had bet like 50 which looks like a value bet whereas a push gets looked up by someone with 3rd pair no kicker.
I am starting to push a lot more hands, giving up a bit of value in the hopes that someone looks me up and I get their whole stack, so far it is working out well
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by ugignadl » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:56 pm
bram wrote:ok well he had J3 of spades and called my all in bet?!?!
I think the main reason I found this hand interesting is that I think he would have folded if I had bet like 50 which looks like a value bet whereas a push gets looked up by someone with 3rd pair no kicker.
I am starting to push a lot more hands, giving up a bit of value in the hopes that someone looks me up and I get their whole stack, so far it is working out well
Seriously? I wonder if this would work on the pp NL200 people.
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by bram » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:53 pm
goofyballer wrote:Um, J3 beats you on that board, was it J4/J2?
rly? AAKKJ > JJ33A
didn't realise he had 2 pair until i reviewed the hand history,
Pacific is a completely different beast to Party in my experience, the check minraise flop is the most popular move on this site, makes it easy to get away from your hand when you pay attention (which i sometimes don't do, minraises make me mad!!!!) lol
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by goofyballer » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:36 am
Oh, you have two pair! Thought you just had TPTK. I guess that makes betting a little easier since one possible combination for him (weak ace/rag two pair combos) that I thought beat you doesn't anymore.
But yeah, I guess I was responding to what you said about "third pair no kicker", when in fact he'll probably always look you up there with two pair.
But yeah, I guess I was responding to what you said about "third pair no kicker", when in fact he'll probably always look you up there with two pair.
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by bram » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:41 am
goofyballer wrote:But yeah, I guess I was responding to what you said about "third pair no kicker", when in fact he'll probably always look you up there with two pair.
yeah i didn't realise he had 2 pair untill i reread the hand history, looks like my stuff up too,
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