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by **alanpsych** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:02 pm

Just wanted anyone's thoughts here. Is there any way I'm not losing on the turn? How to continue? Only 2nd or 3rd hand at this table.

Party Poker ($2/$4 limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

Preflop (5 players): Hero is BTN with

UTG calls [2.5:1].
1 fold.
HERO 2 bets.
SB 3 bets.
BB caps.
UTG calls [4.33:1].
HERO calls [7.5:1].
SB calls [16:1].

Flop (16 small bets ($32) in pot, 4 players):

SB bets.
BB 2 bets.
UTG folds [9.5:1].
HERO 3 bets.
SB caps.
BB calls [13.5:1].
HERO calls [28:1].

Turn (14 bets ($56) in pot, 3 players):

SB bets.
BB 2 bets.

Hero ????

by **biggle10** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:59 pm

There IS a chance you have the best hand (AK, QQ), but it could get very expensive to get to river. Given the way its gone, I wouldn't fault you for folding the turn. Sometimes you fold the best hand. *shrugs*

by **alanpsych** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:56 pm

So you wouldn't be willing to spend 3 BB's to see showdown? btw, Biggle, have you tried WPEX yet? I hear the games are tighter than [insert favorite tight thing here].

by **biggle10** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:32 pm

Well, you have 4 clean outs (to a possible split) and another 2 tainted outs, so let's say 4 outs on average assuming you are behind a set of JJ or KK. I hate hands like this because there's a chance villains have AK, QQ, AA. Getting 7-1 I think its a fold that I should make more often.

by **velar** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:03 am

I came across a few similar situations yesterday when I was lucky enough to get AA (which really hasn't happened for a while).

Pretty much the same board and same play. I slowed down and the guy ended up having AJ....so you never really know.

For this one, paying only another 3BB is wishful thinking. I'd say you are looking at putting another $16 in at least to find out you are beat by two pair and a set, maybe the straight.

You only have 3 super clean outs (:Qd: is semi-suspect). You may have 2 outs for the set but that is very easily counterfeit. Maybe 6 total outs to hit a better two pair.

Assuming you are behind, you'd need 6:1 ('cause I don't think SB is just calling) and you don't have it cleanly. Tack on a bit for the chance you still have the best hand and I'd still fold it.

If BB just calls this turn, I totally call and check/call one bet on the river.

These really are the times when having AA sucks 'cause it'll cost you more when you overplay it against obvious resistance.

by **hiho** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:29 am

AA often times sucks in limit. At least in NL you can isolate to one caller, raise preflop enough to wipe out draws and hope for the best.

by **mervhage** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:32 pm

I take this all the way to the river and lament my terrible luck when one guy turns up 222.

by **alanpsych** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:00 pm

Well, just to show what a stellar player I am, I end up calling the 2 bets, even though I was having trouble putting them on hands I could beat, and SB actually folds. I c/c the river and the guy turns up...

AK???

I have no idea what the other guy could possibly have had. Maybe 88 or 99?

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