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$5 - AK with low board
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$5 - AK with low board
by calgoing » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:36 am
PokerStars Game #8721420506: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2007/03/03 - 17:30:19 (ET)
Table 'Sheratan III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Perryk12 ($6.35 in chips)
Seat 2: NottaChance ($8.64 in chips)
Seat 3: MACF1973 ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 4: philbert57 ($12.01 in chips)
Seat 5: pokerfacemc ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 6: serg7777 ($9.41 in chips)
Seat 8: PhiRich ($4.16 in chips)
Seat 9: redsox324 ($11.19 in chips)
serg7777: posts small blind $0.02
Lolo79: is sitting out
PhiRich: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NottaChance [:Kc:
]
Lolo79 leaves the table
redsox324: folds
Perryk12: folds
NottaChance: raises $0.15 to $0.20
MACF1973: calls $0.20
philbert57: calls $0.20
pokerfacemc: folds
serg7777: calls $0.18
PhiRich: folds
*** FLOP *** [:4h:
]
serg7777: bets $0.05
NottaChance: raises $0.15 to $0.20
MACF1973: folds
philbert57: folds
toadpit joins the table at seat #7
serg7777: calls $0.15
*** TURN *** [4h 6c 3s] [:6h:]
serg7777: bets $0.05
NottaChance: calls $0.05
*** RIVER *** [4h 6c 3s 6h] [:4s:]
serg7777: checks
NottaChance: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
serg7777: shows [Qc 5c] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
NottaChance: shows [Kc Ad] (two pair, Sixes and Fours - Ace kicker)
NottaChance collected $1.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.35 | Rake $0.05
Board [4h 6c 3s 6h 4s]
Seat 1: Perryk12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NottaChance showed [Kc Ad] and won ($1.30) with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 3: MACF1973 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: philbert57 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: pokerfacemc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: serg7777 (small blind) showed [Qc 5c] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 8: PhiRich (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: redsox324 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Table 'Sheratan III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Perryk12 ($6.35 in chips)
Seat 2: NottaChance ($8.64 in chips)
Seat 3: MACF1973 ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 4: philbert57 ($12.01 in chips)
Seat 5: pokerfacemc ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 6: serg7777 ($9.41 in chips)
Seat 8: PhiRich ($4.16 in chips)
Seat 9: redsox324 ($11.19 in chips)
serg7777: posts small blind $0.02
Lolo79: is sitting out
PhiRich: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NottaChance [:Kc:
]
Lolo79 leaves the table
redsox324: folds
Perryk12: folds
NottaChance: raises $0.15 to $0.20
MACF1973: calls $0.20
philbert57: calls $0.20
pokerfacemc: folds
serg7777: calls $0.18
PhiRich: folds
*** FLOP *** [:4h:
]
serg7777: bets $0.05
NottaChance: raises $0.15 to $0.20
MACF1973: folds
philbert57: folds
toadpit joins the table at seat #7
serg7777: calls $0.15
*** TURN *** [4h 6c 3s] [:6h:]
serg7777: bets $0.05
NottaChance: calls $0.05
*** RIVER *** [4h 6c 3s 6h] [:4s:]
serg7777: checks
NottaChance: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
serg7777: shows [Qc 5c] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
NottaChance: shows [Kc Ad] (two pair, Sixes and Fours - Ace kicker)
NottaChance collected $1.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.35 | Rake $0.05
Board [4h 6c 3s 6h 4s]
Seat 1: Perryk12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NottaChance showed [Kc Ad] and won ($1.30) with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 3: MACF1973 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: philbert57 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: pokerfacemc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: serg7777 (small blind) showed [Qc 5c] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 8: PhiRich (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: redsox324 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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by neverthink » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:54 pm
Like Ug said, you clearly can't fold to that flop bet, so repot it. Once he calls, you're done with the hand though imo... unless he minbets the turn like a donk, which he does. Crap spot, looks absolutely awful to fold, but I think raising here is a spew since this is sometimes a draw, sometimes a scared pair trying to get showdown, and rarely a monster. Just make a small turn raise (like you're trying to suck him in) and hope he checks the river down if you think your AK is good.
I really hate taking an overaggro line like this as I feel a right donk when he flips up his pair of sevens and all I have is Ace high, but you cannot allow yourself to be made a mockery of. Good for the image as well as an aside, win or lose.
I really hate taking an overaggro line like this as I feel a right donk when he flips up his pair of sevens and all I have is Ace high, but you cannot allow yourself to be made a mockery of. Good for the image as well as an aside, win or lose.
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by sfustsh » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:50 am
Betting the river is unnecessary. No worse hands are calling. None.
Your A kicker is obviously the best hand, and if he was calling you with a pair of threes they have no value anymore and if he had a 4 or 6 he's got a full house now. 3s aren't calling, anything less than ace high isn't calling, and 4s and 6s aren't folding.
If you're concerned about your image, playing AK so heavily with no pair should be advertisement enough. If you bet the river, no one will get to see your hand anyway, so what was it worth?
EDIT: You might get a flopped straight to fold, but it doesn't seem likely that he's got one. Also unlikely that he'll fold it at this limit anyway.
Your A kicker is obviously the best hand, and if he was calling you with a pair of threes they have no value anymore and if he had a 4 or 6 he's got a full house now. 3s aren't calling, anything less than ace high isn't calling, and 4s and 6s aren't folding.
If you're concerned about your image, playing AK so heavily with no pair should be advertisement enough. If you bet the river, no one will get to see your hand anyway, so what was it worth?
EDIT: You might get a flopped straight to fold, but it doesn't seem likely that he's got one. Also unlikely that he'll fold it at this limit anyway.
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by neverthink » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:43 pm
crunny wrote:Raise flop more. I like the turn. Bet river.
I think just calling the turn puts you in a really bad spot on the river as you've just admitted to not having much, and there is reasonable chance that villain is drawing and we do have the best hand. Just calling is bad for your image as well. That's why this spot sux, but may be a bit more avoidable if hero puts in a decent sized raise on the flop.
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by crunny » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:02 pm
Sometimes I will raise this turn but usually I will just call because
1. I am confused by the turn min-bet.
2. I don't want a big pot with A high.
Also, I don't think any image reasons can apply at this level.
1. I am confused by the turn min-bet.
2. I don't want a big pot with A high.
Also, I don't think any image reasons can apply at this level.
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by ugignadl » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:05 pm
Image isn't what I meant, I said cred, which means that the individual player you lost money to will now think they can beat you. All the time. It's great
. Lose 20bbs and then gain 100 later (you do reload every hand, right).
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