Tight Poker

by **biggle10** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:25 pm

Table reads: Everyone is a moron.

2 limpers, I limp :Qh:

2 more limpers and the blinds call.
Flop: :Qs:

SB checks. BB bets. 1 MP call. 1 fold. I raise. 2 folds. SB 3-bets. BB calls. MP folds. Hero caps. SB calls and BB folds.
Turn: :6h:

SB leads. Hero calls.
River: :6d:

SB leads. Hero calls.

Hand #2:
3 limpers. I raise :As:

on the button. BB calls as do the 3 limpers.
Flop: :Kc:

BB leads. Folded to Hero. Hero calls.
Turn: :7c:

BB leads. Hero raises. BB 3-bets. Hero folds.

by **biggle10** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:01 pm

We need more limit players here.

by **snickers99** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:17 am

Come to the dark side

by **mervhage** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:47 am

Snickers99 wrote:Come to the dark side

lol!!

Hand: 1 looks fine, it would appear as though it's a split.

Hand 2: I prefer to call the turn and river. It's costing you the same (2 bets) as a raise on the turn, and you get a showdown for informational purposes (if that means anything).

by **caffiend** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:20 pm

mervhage wrote:Hand 2: I prefer to call the turn and river. It's costing you the same (2 bets) as a raise on the turn, and you get a showdown for informational purposes (if that means anything).

It's even worse than that. If I didn't miscount (and it's likely I did) the pot's laying 10:1 when you fold. I'm not sure if my read was "everyone's a moron" that I'd be convinced I'm drawing dead more than 91% of the time there.

I'm not entirely sure this is the kind of advertising you want to do in a loose game, either. People are already spewing chips all over the place, you really don't need to demonstrate that you'll make huge laydowns and encourage them to bet even more.

by **mattaca** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:05 pm

I'm pretty much with everyone else, hand 1: looks good, hand 2: check-call down for info.

by **jacedk** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:54 am

Am I the only one who would raise hand 2 on the flop. I realize that doing so would only improve his odds if he is on a draw, but still...

I dunno, I feel like a donkey for asking this, but in this situation, i'd raise the flop and I want to know if (and why) that is wrong. :oops:

by **mervhage** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:56 pm

JaceDK wrote:Am I the only one who would raise hand 2 on the flop. I realize that doing so would only improve his odds if he is on a draw, but still...

I dunno, I feel like a donkey for asking this, but in this situation, i'd raise the flop and I want to know if (and why) that is wrong.

wow, missed that one. I definitely raise the flop. I'm thinking biggle would raise the turn if a safe card comes off, that's why he only calls the flop, yes?

by **alanpsych** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:04 pm

Yeah, I was thinking of raising flop, too, because of the club draw. He might have been worried about losing the guy if he 2-bet, but then again if he's truly a moron... then again he might get 3-bet even if it's a club draw. They will do that. Still, it's good to know how they'll react.

I've never played live, but what I've heard is that you just don't fold in these games, that they're a lot worse than even micro-stakes online. Is that true of this game? If so, I don't fold hand 2.

However, recent events compel me to add that I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that I, too, am a moron. :cry:

by **biggle10** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:22 pm

Alanpsych wrote:Yeah, I was thinking of raising flop, too, because of the club draw. He might have been worried about losing the guy if he 2-bet, but then again if he's truly a moron... then again he might get 3-bet even if it's a club draw. They will do that. Still, it's good to know how they'll react.

I've never played live, but what I've heard is that you just don't fold in these games, that they're a lot worse than even micro-stakes online. Is that true of this game? If so, I don't fold hand 2.

However, recent events compel me to add that I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that I, too, am a moron.

Well, my general impression of low limit live games is that most people don't 3-bet the turn with less than top pair.

My thoughts on hand #2. If he's leading into me he probably has TPGK, or a draw, both of which I'd rather raise on the turn. The club on the turn isn't exactly a safe card, but I'd like to freeze a hand like KT. However, I'm starting to think calling down might've been better in case he was getting crazy with KQc.

by **shun** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:56 pm

Hand #1 is strange, SB check-3bets into the field and leads the 6 turn. Eww. I can understand calling down rather than raising, you do lose some wins against a slowplayed AA/KK against the SB, although I find it tricky to put him on a hand he would play there that you lose against. 99 is possible but strange, 66 is very unlikey, JTs is possible if he's agg with draws. Q6 is possible and he keeps hitting cards to improve. Just strange to have top two and lose.

Hand #2 I'd much prefer raising the flop and then seeing what happens. If he just called the flop and the flush card came I'd check the turn to induce a river bluff if he is bluffing. If another flush card comes I'd think very hard about calling him still. If he re-raises the flop I hate myself and crawl into a hole. Probably fold after the turn knowing I have no redraws.

by **shun** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:32 pm

I'm curious what the results were from both the hands you posted in the forum, Biggle. FTOP.

by **biggle10** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:04 pm

Hand 1: Villain shows QQ.
Hand 2: Unknown, villain doesn't show but made some comment about me trying to run him over.

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